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Mama Rophe 10-15-2005 07:42 PM

Re: The Five Steps
 
I was just wondering...

My ds, who is 16 months, just starts to scream louder and louser when I do the bear hug. He does understand small things, like "Please bring me your shoes."etc. When it is time to clean up, I always have to help him, because he doesn't have the attention span to do it himself yet. What I do is this... I say, "It's time to clean up now." I then slowly start cleaning and he starts to help. When he starts to throw a "tantrum" I try to calm him down with the "bear hug". He just gets louder. I'm not quite sure what to do at this point. Any advice?

sgreen 10-16-2005 07:33 AM

Re: The Five Steps
 


Yep, Ladies :tu :tu :tu :tu :tu :tu :clap :clap :clap :clap

it really works.......and I'm so much calmer as well now.....of course I still have my moments, but less and less.. :pray

Halelujah!!

Thankyou for the 5 steps...I've been telling all my freinds here in rainy Manchester about it!

sgreen 10-16-2005 07:38 AM

Re: The Five Steps
 
oops sorry laura! :hug

i didnt offer any advice.... :smile

with an 18mth old try good old diversion.....ie counting the things you're putting away in a loud and funny voice?

or tickling him after every thing you put away...make a game?

or go through the five steps again?..in a quiet voice sometimes helps.....they have to quiet down to hear what you're saying?

ArmsOfLove 10-16-2005 09:57 AM

Re: The Five Steps
 
And with an 18 mo I'd do step one and then skip to step 3 and make step 4 doing it with him or even 4 him, though if you start and make it playful he will likely jump right in :tu And I'd encourage you to do the Bear Hug at neutral and positive times--usually I just brush into a room, grab someone up in a Bear Hug, and then go back to what I was doing. This way my children don't associate it with conflict, but with comfort :) hth

holmgirl 10-18-2005 08:16 AM

Re: The Five Steps
 
Quote:

And I'd encourage you to do the Bear Hug at neutral and positive times--usually I just brush into a room, grab someone up in a Bear Hug, and then go back to what I was doing. This way my children don't associate it with conflict, but with comfort
Oh I like that! I'm gonna start doing that too. Thanks, Arms Of Love. Your "name" suits you! :giggle

ArmsOfLove 10-18-2005 09:05 AM

Re: The Five Steps
 
Quote:

Arms Of Love. Your "name" suits you!
:O :giggle

sgreen 10-18-2005 10:12 AM

Re: The Five Steps
 
I agree!!!
:)

Mama Rophe 10-18-2005 11:30 AM

Re: The Five Steps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmsOfLove
And with an 18 mo I'd do step one and then skip to step 3 and make step 4 doing it with him or even 4 him, though if you start and make it playful he will likely jump right in :tu And I'd encourage you to do the Bear Hug at neutral and positive times--usually I just brush into a room, grab someone up in a Bear Hug, and then go back to what I was doing. This way my children don't associate it with conflict, but with comfort :) hth

Thank you! I have started doing this and now ds loves to have his hugs. I love this time too, because he gives hugs and kisses back to me.

mum2one 10-26-2005 05:43 PM

Re: The Five Steps
 
with the 5 steps, I may not be getting it but with the 5th step (the bear hug), it that used only when DS isn't complying after helping him?

Can you please explain that more?

thankyou

ArmsOfLove 10-26-2005 05:54 PM

Re: The Five Steps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mum2one
with the 5 steps, I may not be getting it but with the 5th step (the bear hug), it that used only when DS isn't complying after helping him?

Can you please explain that more?

thankyou

The helping should complete the task. The Bear Hug is for if the child's internal boundaries break down and he becomes violent towards himself or others or is melting down. Some children require it when they become aggressive. Some children desire it as it is contact and closeness and helps them feel safe. But at the point where you help the job gets done. :tu

does that help?

mum2one 10-26-2005 11:13 PM

Re: The Five Steps
 
Yep, Thanks for that. :smile

Garnet 03-20-2006 09:11 PM

Re: The Five Steps
 
is it just me or should step five come with a clause to it? I showed it to a few ap friends and they wonder how a child picking up toys goes from picking up toys, to a juvenile deliquent in need of restraint. :giggle often we use step 5 when my oldest ds gets out of control, but for the others we stop at step 3 or 4. I think they are right, and I almost wish I hadn't shown it to them, it makes us seem more punitive than we are. :td

ArmsOfLove 03-21-2006 07:46 PM

Re: The Five Steps
 
:laughtears some children are just that intense :hissyfit I mean :shifty

Most often picking up toys does not requre the fifth step :grin

Garnet 03-21-2006 07:51 PM

Re: The Five Steps
 
thats what I said and they were, I don't know Kelli.......ugh. Anyway, I'm over it. I know I'm not a punitive parent. There was all this stuff said about step 5 invading a childs space, and I was like :hunh :scratch you all *ARE* AP, right? Because as an AP parent, I don't have space. Lack of space is more like it. It might be unusual in some houses for a parent to hug their child after they've done a task they're asked to do, but not mine. :shrug

Thanks Crystal. :hug

sgreen 04-06-2006 09:59 AM

Re: The Five Steps
 
Hugging a child when they're a bit out of control is much better than shouting and smacking.....

I find the 5 step method very helpful, and much more comforting for a child....

sometime other people's 'helpful feedback' tells you more about them and 'where they are' with stuff than about your progress...

God Bless you

sarah
xxx


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