Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo

Rugayatu · 06-26-2014, 10:52 AM

DD has had cradle cap her whole life. Every now and then I rub oil on it and scrub/pick it all off, but she hates it so we don't do it that often. Plus, it always comes back so it feels pretty pointless.

Are there things I can do to keep it away? DH thinks I need to wash her hair with shampoo more often (I usually just use water, rarely use soap on her head or body, just when she's really dirty) but I don't think that would make much difference.

Diet changes? I can't imagine it's normal for an almost 5yo to still have cradle cap, so there must be something going on in her body.

sweetpeasmommy · 06-26-2014, 12:19 PM

It's fungal, so low sugar and adding probiotics should help. It will get worse before better as the body gets rid of it from the inside out. My ds had it til he was 6.5 and we removed all sugar from his diet.

Rivendell Raven · 06-26-2014, 12:28 PM

Sorry, just realized this was in the nturals thread and my response wasnt. Edited for that reason.

3PeasInAPod · 06-26-2014, 01:08 PM

Yes my 8yr old has dealt with this pretty much his whole life. We do coconut oil and are starting a probiotic

sweetpeasmommy · 06-26-2014, 01:09 PM

It is perfectly fine to suggest less natural approaches.

your post was fine rivendell raven.

houseforjoy · 06-26-2014, 04:54 PM

you can use a dandruff shampoo (carefully!!) or also add a bit of tea tree oil to the shampoo you use. that will keep it manageable for now

but going low sugar and adding probiotics will help heal it long term.

SillyMommy · 06-26-2014, 05:04 PM

I had no idea it was fungal! I thought it was dairy-related

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HuggaBuggaMommy · 06-26-2014, 05:11 PM

Thank you for this - my dd has also had it forever, and nothing has helped.

LilacPhoenix · 06-26-2014, 07:12 PM

Going gluten free got rid of Gabriel's...

Rugayatu · 06-26-2014, 07:24 PM

Rivendell Raven now I'm really curious to see what your suggestion was! It's fine to suggest less-natural approaches, I just wasn't really sure where to post this.

We got most of it off today with coconut oil and a fine-tooth comb. She is on a probiotic but has been taking it somewhat sporadically lately (post partum mama, etc...) so I will definitely be more on top of that.

And yeah. We don't eat much sugar (no white sugar at all home, we use honey, maple syrup, coconut sugar and she occasionally has treats at a church potluck or something). I've been wanting to do a diet adjustment with her since she also has some little bumps on her chest that she's had for at least 2 years. They don't itch, they don't change, they're just *there.* I'm guessing gluten or dairy since I am sensitive to both. But cutting either of those out of her diet is hard (even though I don't eat either one) b/c DH feeds her a lot and is not super supportive of diet changes.... I'll have to work on him.

I'll also try adding a bit of tea tree oil when I shampoo her hair (less than once/week usually).

Thanks mamas! Anyone else feel free to chime in!

esperanza · 06-26-2014, 07:30 PM

Could it be psoriasis? I have had patches of that on my scalp. Using a dandruff shampoo has helped, especially the coal tar kind. It stinks something awful. But I use it, and then use another shampoo after so my hair doesn't smell like hot tar.

Rivendell Raven · 06-26-2014, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugayatu

Rivendell Raven now I'm really curious to see what your suggestion was! It's fine to suggest less-natural approaches, I just wasn't really sure where to post this.

Dandruff shampoo. Pyrithione zinc (head and shoulders) for a mild case and a tar based dandruff shampoo for a tougher case. If either don't work then it may be yeast based dermatitis and a trip to the pediatrician may be needed.

HadassahSukkot · 06-27-2014, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by esperanza

Could it be psoriasis? I have had patches of that on my scalp. Using a dandruff shampoo has helped, especially the coal tar kind. It stinks something awful. But I use it, and then use another shampoo after so my hair doesn't smell like hot tar.

I wanted to ask this too. If it is psoriasis, it could be dietary related. Going GF got rid of mine until my massive glutening. It went away. I forgot to take shampoo with me to the hair dresser's a few yrs ago and *wham* I got hives on my head, dermatitis herpetiformis outbreak on my head, and for good measure... psoriasis came back like nothing before.

I've been using (and alternating with Johnson and Johnson's baby shampoo between) shampoos with Salicylic acid and Coal tar. I also noticed the natural shampoo our pharmacist recommended when I had lice (

) 6 1/2 yrs ago had witchhazel and all kinds of interesting things in it. It's by the brand Rausch in Switzerland. (RAUSCH Weidenrinden Spezial Shampoo)
That worked. So does occasional use of the nit comb I kept

to get big patches that are visible and making sure i'm getting all the vitamins and minerals I should. Stress makes me break out something awful. Oh it is so bad right around my head (not in, but on the edges where my hair stops)

I keep throwing good food in there at it and taking b12 and making sure I'm eating as well as I can, but yuck. stress. I need to get more sunlight. Problem is, energy to do so.

blessedwithboys · 06-27-2014, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivendell Raven

Dandruff shampoo. Pyrithione zinc (head and shoulders) for a mild case and a tar based dandruff shampoo for a tougher case. If either don't work then it may be yeast based dermatitis and a trip to the pediatrician may be needed.

at least a few washes with Selsun Blue or similar, and then she probably needs shampoo regularly. My mother tried to be more crunchy and did not wash our hair with shampoo much at all. I had cradle cap to the point that it was painful (it would thicken, then I'd peel/pick it off and and it would be raw underneath) until I was 8-9 and started scrubbing my own head with shampoo. Regular shampoo has always worked once the initial problem was taken care of with dandruff shampoo. I don't have any underlying health issue- I just needed soap.

If shampoo ingredients concern you, more natural shampoos should be fine after the first few washes with the dandruff shampoos.

3PeasInAPod · 06-27-2014, 06:50 AM

I'm not knocking the idea of dandruff shampoo .. We tried that and it made my son's scalp fire red... it we just too harsh. So then after that experience we got a rx from the dr for ketoconazole which was milder. It slowly dries it out but it just kept coming back. So we're back to coconut oil, tea tree and now looking into diet and probiotics.

06-26-2014, 10:52 AM	#1
Rugayatu Climbing Rose Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northeast Posts: 1,163	Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo DD has had cradle cap her whole life. Every now and then I rub oil on it and scrub/pick it all off, but she hates it so we don't do it that often. Plus, it always comes back so it feels pretty pointless. Are there things I can do to keep it away? DH thinks I need to wash her hair with shampoo more often (I usually just use water, rarely use soap on her head or body, just when she's really dirty) but I don't think that would make much difference. Diet changes? I can't imagine it's normal for an almost 5yo to still have cradle cap, so there must be something going on in her body. __________________ Erin INFJ wife to hard-working cowboy DH ~ 6/5/2005 mama to sweet and spunky DD ~ 9/2/09 squishy and serene DS ~ 1/12/14 and my angel baby ~ 1/8/2008 "The work we do is only our love for Jesus in action." ~Mother Theresa

06-26-2014, 12:19 PM	#2
sweetpeasmommy Rose Garden Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 30,329	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo It's fungal, so low sugar and adding probiotics should help. It will get worse before better as the body gets rid of it from the inside out. My ds had it til he was 6.5 and we removed all sugar from his diet. __________________ Amy eNFp Wife to ISTJ DH 1997 Mom to one Sweet Boy 10/2004

06-26-2014, 12:28 PM	#3
Rivendell Raven Rose Bouquet Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Imladris Posts: 591	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo Sorry, just realized this was in the nturals thread and my response wasnt. Edited for that reason. __________________ Married to DH since 6/21/10 Mama to S since 6/19/13 Last edited by Rivendell Raven; 06-26-2014 at 12:37 PM. Reason: inadvertently posted unhelpful material, sorry!

06-26-2014, 01:08 PM	#4
3PeasInAPod Deactivated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: pnw Posts: 8,571	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo Yes my 8yr old has dealt with this pretty much his whole life. We do coconut oil and are starting a probiotic

06-26-2014, 01:09 PM	#5
sweetpeasmommy Rose Garden Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 30,329	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo It is perfectly fine to suggest less natural approaches. your post was fine rivendell raven. __________________ Amy eNFp Wife to ISTJ DH 1997 Mom to one Sweet Boy 10/2004

06-26-2014, 04:54 PM	#6
houseforjoy Rose Garden trying to live like olaf "this is the best day of my life!... and quite possibly the last!" Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: in the sunshine with my own personal flurry Posts: 9,563	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo you can use a dandruff shampoo (carefully!!) or also add a bit of tea tree oil to the shampoo you use. that will keep it manageable for now but going low sugar and adding probiotics will help heal it long term. __________________ Amanda, ENFJ Mommy to my bounty: ds 13 years, dd 12 years, dd 9 years , dd 6 and ds 4 Psalm 13 How long, O Lord? Will you forget me forever?How long will you hide your face from me? 2 How long must I take counsel in my soul and have sorrow in my heart all the day?....because I am shaken. 5 But I have trusted in your steadfast love; my heart shall rejoice in your salvation. 6 I will sing to the Lord, because he has dealt bountifully with me.

06-26-2014, 05:04 PM	#7
SillyMommy Climbing Rose Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: AL Posts: 1,418	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo I had no idea it was fungal! I thought it was dairy-related Sent from my RM-820_nam_att_100 using Tapatalk __________________ Christi (ISFP, DYT 3) Wife to CC (INTJ) (7/02) and Mommy to R1 (12) T3, R2 (8.6) T4, R3 (6.9) T1 and R4 (13m) PaperbackSwap \| Goodreads

06-26-2014, 05:11 PM	#8
HuggaBuggaMommy Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,271	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo Thank you for this - my dd has also had it forever, and nothing has helped. __________________ Christa Oldest, 22 Middlest, 13 Youngest, 10

06-26-2014, 07:12 PM	#9
LilacPhoenix Rose Garden E's newborn feet; G's 3-yr-old feet Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 8,478	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo Going gluten free got rid of Gabriel's... __________________ CMB Wife of P (May 2018) Mommy to two terrific boys, E (July '07) and G (Dec '09), and "bonus mommy" to B (Sept '11) INFPs are a FiNe SiTe to behold! DYT 1/2 My recipe blog! Recipes "I need to live life like some people never will... To ride the wings of dreams into changing horizons." Dream Theater

06-26-2014, 07:24 PM	#10
Rugayatu Climbing Rose Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northeast Posts: 1,163	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo Rivendell Raven now I'm really curious to see what your suggestion was! It's fine to suggest less-natural approaches, I just wasn't really sure where to post this. We got most of it off today with coconut oil and a fine-tooth comb. She is on a probiotic but has been taking it somewhat sporadically lately (post partum mama, etc...) so I will definitely be more on top of that. And yeah. We don't eat much sugar (no white sugar at all home, we use honey, maple syrup, coconut sugar and she occasionally has treats at a church potluck or something). I've been wanting to do a diet adjustment with her since she also has some little bumps on her chest that she's had for at least 2 years. They don't itch, they don't change, they're just there. I'm guessing gluten or dairy since I am sensitive to both. But cutting either of those out of her diet is hard (even though I don't eat either one) b/c DH feeds her a lot and is not super supportive of diet changes.... I'll have to work on him. I'll also try adding a bit of tea tree oil when I shampoo her hair (less than once/week usually). Thanks mamas! Anyone else feel free to chime in! __________________ Erin INFJ wife to hard-working cowboy DH ~ 6/5/2005 mama to sweet and spunky DD ~ 9/2/09 squishy and serene DS ~ 1/12/14 and my angel baby ~ 1/8/2008 "The work we do is only our love for Jesus in action." ~Mother Theresa

06-26-2014, 07:30 PM	#11
esperanza Rose Garden Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 5,240	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo Could it be psoriasis? I have had patches of that on my scalp. Using a dandruff shampoo has helped, especially the coal tar kind. It stinks something awful. But I use it, and then use another shampoo after so my hair doesn't smell like hot tar. __________________ Wife to mi amor Mama to my gift from the Lord (07/2013)

06-27-2014, 06:50 AM	#15
3PeasInAPod Deactivated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: pnw Posts: 8,571	Re: Cradle cap in 4 1/2 yo I'm not knocking the idea of dandruff shampoo .. We tried that and it made my son's scalp fire red... it we just too harsh. So then after that experience we got a rx from the dr for ketoconazole which was milder. It slowly dries it out but it just kept coming back. So we're back to coconut oil, tea tree and now looking into diet and probiotics.

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