Church is doing class on GKGW

rcsmom · 06-27-2016, 10:23 AM

So my church is thinking about doing a parenting class using Growing Kids Gods Way. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
Fortunately I don't think it is set in stone yet and they don't really know much about it- it just got recommended to them by someone. Also the people in my church are really very good with kids in day to day interactions- they (in general) love kids and are very easy going about age appropriate behavior. I think that once they hear some of the concerns they will change their minds. A fellow GCMer

already gave them the link to the ezzo.info site so hopefully they read it. I am going to bring up the fact that they were kicked out of their church and their kids don't have any contact with them. Hoping those issues make everyone think twice.

Leslie · 06-27-2016, 10:28 AM

I hope they decide to use something else.

Hermana Linda · 06-27-2016, 10:37 AM

Oh dear! I do hope they will research this and change their minds.

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mamacat · 06-27-2016, 10:48 AM

Would meet with pastor and or whoever is in charge of coordinating the classes armed with info and your concerns. What you aid about them not knowing much about it is very telling

CelticJourney · 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM

The thing that got Gary Ezzo 'uninvited' to my church many, many years ago was when I told the pastor 'since your kids are grown, you might not know this, but this material is pretty controversial and many people would never think of visiting a church where his name was or had been on the church sign'.

melliethepooh · 06-27-2016, 12:15 PM

I think you'd find they'll backtrack pretty quickly if you let them know it's controversial.

ECingMama · 06-27-2016, 01:31 PM

It might be helpful to offer a few alternatives.

3PeasInAPod · 07-23-2016, 04:44 PM

I think everyone wants sleep and expectations are set too high that pushing a baby into that mold to get sleep and routine seem worth a try. I think the book will be around a lot longer unfortunately

Quiteria · 07-23-2016, 11:04 PM

The infant version has a lot of very convincing rhetoric that it's the only way you'll ever get any sleep, and both the infant and older kid (toddler, child, teen) books insist your kids will be little brats if you raise them differently. Those are very real fears that our selfish and isolated culture magnifies.

I have never felt so exhausted as when we were trying to follow Preparation for Parenting, not even when I was tandeming, and so much of GKGW is the antithesis of how Jesus taught us to treat brothers and sisters in Christ. My kids aren't perfect, but they are sincere about trying to behave without being locked in some antagonistic battle to get them that way.

I hope that other study isn't as bad.

06-27-2016, 10:23 AM	#1
rcsmom Rose Bouquet Remember, you are not managing an inconvenience; You are raising a human being ~ Kittie Frantz Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Western NY Posts: 666	Church is doing class on GKGW So my church is thinking about doing a parenting class using Growing Kids Gods Way. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Fortunately I don't think it is set in stone yet and they don't really know much about it- it just got recommended to them by someone. Also the people in my church are really very good with kids in day to day interactions- they (in general) love kids and are very easy going about age appropriate behavior. I think that once they hear some of the concerns they will change their minds. A fellow GCMer already gave them the link to the ezzo.info site so hopefully they read it. I am going to bring up the fact that they were kicked out of their church and their kids don't have any contact with them. Hoping those issues make everyone think twice. __________________ Jessica Momma to DS1-the Monkinroanie DS2-the Sweet Punkin DS3- the Peanut and the rainbow babies DS4 and DD

06-27-2016, 10:28 AM	#2
Leslie Rose Garden Genteel Princess Mollie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,203	Re: Church is doing class on GKGW I hope they decide to use something else.

06-27-2016, 10:37 AM	#3
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,860	Re: Church is doing class on GKGW Oh dear! I do hope they will research this and change their minds. Sent from my mobile device via Tapatalk __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

06-27-2016, 10:48 AM	#4
mamacat Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,473	Re: Church is doing class on GKGW Would meet with pastor and or whoever is in charge of coordinating the classes armed with info and your concerns. What you aid about them not knowing much about it is very telling __________________ ~Catherine~ Mama to 5: C W C J S And Grandma to 3: A ,K and baby C

06-27-2016, 11:23 AM	#5
CelticJourney Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 34,567	Re: Church is doing class on GKGW The thing that got Gary Ezzo 'uninvited' to my church many, many years ago was when I told the pastor 'since your kids are grown, you might not know this, but this material is pretty controversial and many people would never think of visiting a church where his name was or had been on the church sign'. __________________ Elizabeth "Truth without love is divisive and hurtful & love without truth is anemic"--Pastor Estep Arise, cry out in the night...pour out your heart like water in the presence of the Lord; Lift up your hands to him for the lives of your children..; Lamentations 2:19

06-27-2016, 12:15 PM	#6
melliethepooh Rose Garden Dinosaurs are people too Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,981	Re: Church is doing class on GKGW I think you'd find they'll backtrack pretty quickly if you let them know it's controversial. __________________ Melinda, INTJ Married to Mr since 12/06 ENTP Mama to all the babies, 1/09 ISTJ and 11/11 ExxP and 5/14 ExxP and NEW ONE 8/16

06-27-2016, 01:31 PM	#7
ECingMama Rose Garden Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 16,750	Re: Church is doing class on GKGW It might be helpful to offer a few alternatives. __________________ ENFp Wife who is thankful to be in love....17 years Homeschooling Mom of three....15 DD dancer and 12 DS mountain biker and 5 DD calico critter and dolly mommy 12/2014 8/2015 11/2015 9/2016

07-23-2016, 04:44 PM	#8
3PeasInAPod Deactivated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: pnw Posts: 8,571	Re: Church is doing class on GKGW I think everyone wants sleep and expectations are set too high that pushing a baby into that mold to get sleep and routine seem worth a try. I think the book will be around a lot longer unfortunately

07-23-2016, 11:04 PM	#9
Quiteria Rose Garden Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 23,483	Re: Church is doing class on GKGW The infant version has a lot of very convincing rhetoric that it's the only way you'll ever get any sleep, and both the infant and older kid (toddler, child, teen) books insist your kids will be little brats if you raise them differently. Those are very real fears that our selfish and isolated culture magnifies. I have never felt so exhausted as when we were trying to follow Preparation for Parenting, not even when I was tandeming, and so much of GKGW is the antithesis of how Jesus taught us to treat brothers and sisters in Christ. My kids aren't perfect, but they are sincere about trying to behave without being locked in some antagonistic battle to get them that way. I hope that other study isn't as bad. __________________ Homeschooling mama to five: a young adult (graduated!), two high schoolers, a big kid, and a kindergartner And yes, they've all aged overnight since the last time you read my out-of-date sigg. Last edited by Quiteria; 07-24-2016 at 10:13 AM.

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