Gentle Christian Mothers Community
 
Random Quotes from Wise Mamas

~* Please help keep GCM free by using our
Amazon.com affiliate link. Thank you! *~


Go Back   Gentle Christian Mothers Community > Specific Issues > Gentle Discipline *Public* > GD Info and FAQs *Public*
Forgot Password? Join Us!

GD Info and FAQs *Public* The new home for most of the GD stickies. :)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-18-2010, 09:27 PM   #181
Marsha
Rose Garden
I support GCM!
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,376
Marsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Oh, ok, when *I* say it and just keep going, it eventually (I am totally not kidding) comes out to "and I'm hungry and I'm tired"...and that always makes me laugh because it's so primal and fixable.
__________________
Marsha Learning to be a single, wohm mom to my girls Ainslee (June 10, 2002) and Riley (August 9, 2005)!
Marsha is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Marsha For This Useful Post:
Maggirayne (03-19-2010)
Old 03-19-2010, 05:33 AM   #182
raquel
Guest
 
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Subbing....this has given me sooo much to think/chew over and I want to come back for more.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2010, 07:16 AM   #183
simplegirl
Rose Garden
 
She's a good girl, loves her Mama, loves Jesus, and Kentucky too
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 7,548
simplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond reputesimplegirl has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggirayne View Post
I remember being frustrated because I would be so incredibly upset and there was no acceptable way to express my anger. I couldn't talk, that was backtalking, couldn't stomp, that was defiance, etc, etc. So I would glare, which doesn't look nearly as fierce as I thought and stare at my mom's forehead and avoid eye contact.
YES! This is how I felt too

Does anyone else find it very sad that so many of us are dealing with this?
__________________
Wife to Designer/Creative Director
ESFJ - piano teacher & children's pastor
Noah 2005
Coleman 2007
Josie 2018 (adopting soon!)
simplegirl is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to simplegirl For This Useful Post:
DancingWithElves (03-19-2010), jmom1984 (07-20-2011), Maggirayne (03-19-2010)
Old 03-19-2010, 11:44 AM   #184
DancingWithElves
Rose Garden
I support GCM!
 
Blissed out in the January sun
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: that perfect place :)
Posts: 11,721
DancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by saturnfire16 View Post
Saying that stuff just makes me angry though. I feel like a victim and then I feel weak and weakness is not acceptable, so I get mad at myself for being weak and even madder at whoever I imagine to be persecuting me.
then keep talking in the moment
keep on: "... and now that i said this, i feel like such a pathetic weakling and very angry. and i understand that this is not healthy, and i am safe in this place to be weak, people around me will love me when i am weak, God loves me in my weakness" .... i love the song that says: "all my weaknesses made perfect in his unending love"

and i didn't at all wanted to give you an impression that someone has to be my level of screwed-uppedness to experience these things

certainly, being raised by Dobson, and subtle emotional/spiritual abuse, all that is more than enough to create such response
__________________
~I r e n e~
sweet and sassy wife, mama, healer, part-time dragon-slayer
the worst PM answerer ever
my belongs to the babywearing 'Architect'
Dancing with my three Magical Elves Smiles the Stampede Sugar Plump & Double Dimples

Kissing each elf 1,000,000 times a day, and when there's time left tracking gnomes, singing folk songs on the porch, befriending dragonflies, and bopping sun-frosted 'fros through the dandelion fields.

DancingWithElves is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DancingWithElves For This Useful Post:
Maggirayne (03-19-2010), saturnfire16 (03-20-2010)
Old 03-19-2010, 02:42 PM   #185
Pearl In Oyster
Rose Garden
 
growing every day
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: California
Posts: 4,100
Pearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond reputePearl In Oyster has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Quote:
...I'm a horrible wife/mother because of my dirty house ...
When I find myself thinking in this all or nothing way I definitely get more on edge, and I find it helpful to say out loud something less condemning and more helpful. How would I speak to a friend who was saying those things about herself? Then I say those kind words to myself.

"I feel like a horrible wife/mother/person because of XYZ, but XYZ doesn't define me as a wife/mother/person. I'm God's loved child who makes mistakes." Or something like that. It sounds so corny but it really does help. That is, when I remember to do it!
__________________
Maggie

Celebrating resurrection life after a heart transplant on 2/21/15!

Married since 8/28/04 to a big Bear
Mama to sweet & spirited Charlotte , born 9/08, determined & imaginative Zachary , born 6/12, one I'll see in heaven 10/10, and easy-going Elliott , born 4/14!
Pearl In Oyster is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Pearl In Oyster For This Useful Post:
Herbwifemama (03-19-2010), hopeforchange (03-19-2010), Maggirayne (03-19-2010), passionatemom (03-23-2010), saturnfire16 (03-20-2010), simplegirl (03-19-2010), TenderLovingWillow (01-20-2013)
Old 03-20-2010, 03:36 AM   #186
Tasmanian Saint
Rose Trellis
I support GCM!
 
Go Team Lioness!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: This side of the black stump
Posts: 2,428
Tasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond reputeTasmanian Saint has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

We had a youth group meeting once where the leader asked us to write down our virtues and vices (I don't think that was the words he used, but you know what I mean). I think we all wrote down more vices than virtues. The leader pointed out that we have a tendency to expect near perfection of our virtues before we'll acknowledge them. That is, we won't call ourselves 'patient' unless we are almost NEVER impatient. I'm lazy unless I'm doing something useful every.single.waking.second; I'm not humble if I ever feel the least skerrick of pride; I'm not a gentle mum because I often yell at my kids... etc, etc

It can be helpful, I find, to remind myself of how much I do, how much patience I show, how I'm growing in gentleness etc. It helps me be patient with myself, which gives me a little more patience with others.
__________________
Our blossoms: DS "Little Bear" Apr '07 - The negotiator
DD "Miss Muffett" Nov '08 "Don't tell Daddy..."
DS "Mouse" Jan '12 "I Soup Baby, Man of steel! "
Myth Busting over at Dare to Disciple
"Believe in yourself. Trust your instincts. Unless your instincts are terrible." Vitruvius, The LEGO Movie.
Tasmanian Saint is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Tasmanian Saint For This Useful Post:
hopeforchange (03-20-2010), jmom1984 (07-20-2011), Luciola (06-03-2013), mamahammer (03-20-2010), Pearl In Oyster (03-20-2010), saturnfire16 (03-20-2010), simplegirl (03-20-2010), thomer (03-20-2010), Vicki_T (03-20-2010)
Old 03-23-2010, 05:48 PM   #187
passionatemom
Rose Bouquet
 
I am a work in progress.
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 592
passionatemom is just really nicepassionatemom is just really nicepassionatemom is just really nicepassionatemom is just really nicepassionatemom is just really nice
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sierdsmama View Post
When I find myself thinking in this all or nothing way I definitely get more on edge, and I find it helpful to say out loud something less condemning and more helpful. How would I speak to a friend who was saying those things about herself? Then I say those kind words to myself.

"I feel like a horrible wife/mother/person because of XYZ, but XYZ doesn't define me as a wife/mother/person. I'm God's loved child who makes mistakes." Or something like that. It sounds so corny but it really does help. That is, when I remember to do it!
I think this kind of thing virtually every day! Thank you for the simple script.

It doesn't help that I live in a basement apartment at my MIL's house, and she keeps things spotless and fancy. I think much of what she does is fussy and unnecessary, but I still often measure myself by what I think she thinks. My mom kept a rather cluttered house, but I always knew that "normal" people didn't live that way. Hello, my mom is a real person, who valued relationships over a clean house! I want to be that person. (Not that MIL doesn't value relationships, she just goes about it a different way . . . )

And my husband is very tolerant and doesn't mention my housekeeping habits often. But I know that having grown up in a perfectionist cleaner's house he would prefer things to be tidy. I don't need him to complain about it, I can use my imagination to voice his expectations. Isn't that silly? I'm making it up.

I'm a perfectionist as well, but a different kind. I'm reading some of Dr. Kevin Lehman's stuff right now about parenting. He says that for a perfectionist child to be criticized often (I was) can lead to their just giving up trying.

So I have these high expectations, that I'm imagining others have of me, then I have the fact that I don't feel capable of living up to them, and sometimes I get so discouraged and overwhelmed that I can't do anything. Why bother, when it won't be good enough?

I also have recently realized I have fear of success, even at little things. If I have things planned so that I will be able to do an adequate job and succeed at it, my perfectionist voice comes in and says, "ooh, why don't you add this, or change that, to make it better!" and then it becomes more than I can reasonably achieve, and the task I should have succeeded at becomes a perceived failure. I did this the other night over cooking boxed mac'n'cheese and hot dogs for dinner! Had to change something in the middle of cooking, then it wasn't done on time, and poof, I felt terrible.

Oh, and re-reading this, I thought, this is just the kind of thing we're trying to avoid in our kids when we refrain from praising them saying things like "good girl, you did XYZ" because they will think they are only a good girl when they do XYZ, and therefore, a bad girl when they don't.

Wow, as usual, I had a lot to say .

PS. I love this thread!!!
__________________
Meg
I love book recommendations!
Recovering perfectionist

We homeschool, cosleep, and do "extended" breastfeeding

Wife to Dan since 6/04
Mama to Emmett 12/2007, ASD, SPD, just as passionate as his Mama!
And Jasper 5/2011, self-appointed "ball" boy (small ) Jasper is a mix of spunk and mellowness.

INTP - "I should infinitely prefer a book." - Pride and Prejudice
passionatemom is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to passionatemom For This Useful Post:
Tasmanian Saint (03-23-2010), TenderLovingWillow (01-20-2013)
Old 06-10-2010, 09:38 PM   #188
Blue-EyedLady
Rose Garden
 
The Lion Cub
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Northern Arizona
Posts: 10,813
Blue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond reputeBlue-EyedLady has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

this as I need to re-read it a couple more times after an awful day today.

And I'm hoping someone else might need a reminder to do this too so I won't feel so alone.
__________________
Mama to The Engineer (7 yo) "When I grow up, I'm going to build Highway 100!"
The Imaginative Adventurer (4.5 yo) "I'm going to rescue you!"
and The Lion Cub (1 yo)- Smart, cute, strong, and unstoppable!

Sister to BlessedBlue forever

Co-Founder and Lead Writer at Food Allergies On Ice

Blue-EyedLady is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Blue-EyedLady For This Useful Post:
Tasmanian Saint (06-16-2010), The Tickle Momster (06-12-2010)
Old 06-11-2010, 12:13 AM   #189
Vicki_T
Rose Garden
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 3,790
Vicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue-EyedLady View Post
this as I need to re-read it a couple more times after an awful day today.

And I'm hoping someone else might need a reminder to do this too so I won't feel so alone.
I'm looking for self-talk ideas for when they make a mess, if anyone can help me there?
__________________

Married to Pete
Mum to Rachel (13)
Elizabeth (10)
and Elijah (7)
Vicki_T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2010, 07:09 AM   #190
Marsha
Rose Garden
I support GCM!
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,376
Marsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond reputeMarsha has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki_T View Post
I'm looking for self-talk ideas for when they make a mess, if anyone can help me there?
I thought an example was in here but may be not. Something like:

I am so upset that they made a mess. I feel like no one cares about me, like I am left to do everything, they get to have fun while I"m stuck with the work, no one cares that I like a clean house, I feel ignored..........." eventually you'll say something that strikes a chord with you like with me "I'm hungry and tired" .
__________________
Marsha Learning to be a single, wohm mom to my girls Ainslee (June 10, 2002) and Riley (August 9, 2005)!
Marsha is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Marsha For This Useful Post:
Vicki_T (06-11-2010)
Old 06-11-2010, 12:34 PM   #191
Vicki_T
Rose Garden
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 3,790
Vicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond reputeVicki_T has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsha View Post
I thought an example was in here but may be not. Something like:

I am so upset that they made a mess. I feel like no one cares about me, like I am left to do everything, they get to have fun while I"m stuck with the work, no one cares that I like a clean house, I feel ignored..........." eventually you'll say something that strikes a chord with you like with me "I'm hungry and tired" .
I hadn't searched through this thread I should.
__________________

Married to Pete
Mum to Rachel (13)
Elizabeth (10)
and Elijah (7)
Vicki_T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2010, 03:25 PM   #192
Maggirayne
Rose Garden
 
Standing for gentleness and honesty
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Looking for Hope
Posts: 12,036
Maggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

Ugh, I won't talk about how I feel right now. I'm so stressed trying to pack and I go to do one thing and have to do, sigh (A just knocked a moslty empty shelf off the bookcase) and DH just asked if there was anything besides stress in life. E keeps pulling stuff out of tubs that's packed including finding Christmas presents while I'm on the phone with the sellers, so now I can't recall who picks up the garbage, and I'll have to call back andi'll look dumb and waaaaah, will someone come pack and clean and cook supper for me?

And I've yelled at E and smacked her when she dumped the bathroom garbage complete with poopy wipes out earlier today. And she took apart my already partly broken drying rack, I swear, she's obsessed with the stupid thing, and I know she's just three. I'm just tired!

I want to go hide in the bathtub, which never works because both of them insist on getting in with me and crawling on me and pushing each other and I end up madder instead of relaxed, and I'm getting mad just thinking about it.

And, I don't have time to relax because I didn't get anything done. Umm, yeah. I need some good scripts. And a baby who quit pinching my nipples would be nice too.
__________________
Maggi, Tw irler of the Umbrella of Silliness
Mama to two sweet littles and 3 angels
12/4/11 10/7/13 12/8/13
Grace is not a destination, it's a journey.
I first learned to show grace to my child that was not shown to me, then I learned to accept it for myself, and only recently have I been able to have grace for others more.
~Sweetpeasmommy
A
Maggirayne is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Maggirayne For This Useful Post:
ShepherdsWife (10-17-2013)
Old 06-11-2010, 05:48 PM   #193
DancingWithElves
Rose Garden
I support GCM!
 
Blissed out in the January sun
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: that perfect place :)
Posts: 11,721
DancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond reputeDancingWithElves has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk



i'm a mess today too, so i'll let someone else respond, but just hugs and sympathy
__________________
~I r e n e~
sweet and sassy wife, mama, healer, part-time dragon-slayer
the worst PM answerer ever
my belongs to the babywearing 'Architect'
Dancing with my three Magical Elves Smiles the Stampede Sugar Plump & Double Dimples

Kissing each elf 1,000,000 times a day, and when there's time left tracking gnomes, singing folk songs on the porch, befriending dragonflies, and bopping sun-frosted 'fros through the dandelion fields.

DancingWithElves is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to DancingWithElves For This Useful Post:
Maggirayne (06-11-2010)
The Following User Says they are praying for DancingWithElves:
Maggirayne (06-11-2010)
Old 06-13-2010, 08:10 PM   #194
allisonintx
Rose Garden
 
Some Cal/Mag will probably fix that.
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: catching up on the laundry
Posts: 41,422
allisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond reputeallisonintx has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

It's also ok to look in the mirror and say "some days suck. His love is new every morning. Great is His faithfulness"

I took a tub bath *alone* most days even when that meant that the children sat and pounded on the locked door. It's ok to have boundaries. Happy is not the only acceptable emotion. After about ten days of the mommy-alone bath routine, they get used to it.
__________________


allisonintx
Wife to Stephen
Mother to Elizabeth 19, Andrew 17, Abigail 14 & Evelyn 12

Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take a boat in the air that you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turn of the world. Love keeps her in the air when she ought to fall down. Tells you she's hurting before she keens. Makes her a home.
. . . . . . .



allisonintx is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to allisonintx For This Useful Post:
Aisling (06-14-2010), Elora (07-03-2012), gdzprncess (05-16-2011), jmom1984 (07-20-2011), Luciola (06-03-2013), marigold (06-14-2010), Pearl In Oyster (03-23-2011), ShepherdsWife (06-03-2013), TenderLovingWillow (01-20-2013), The Tickle Momster (06-13-2010), thrillofhope (10-14-2013)
Old 03-23-2011, 03:43 PM   #195
Maggirayne
Rose Garden
 
Standing for gentleness and honesty
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Looking for Hope
Posts: 12,036
Maggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond reputeMaggirayne has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: s/o parenting self-talk

I had to search for this--it still isn't stickied.
__________________
Maggi, Tw irler of the Umbrella of Silliness
Mama to two sweet littles and 3 angels
12/4/11 10/7/13 12/8/13
Grace is not a destination, it's a journey.
I first learned to show grace to my child that was not shown to me, then I learned to accept it for myself, and only recently have I been able to have grace for others more.
~Sweetpeasmommy
A
Maggirayne is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Maggirayne For This Useful Post:
L-Boogie (03-24-2011), Tasmanian Saint (03-23-2011)
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:35 AM.


A variety of opinions and ideas are shared on GCM. Personal experiences, suggestions, and tips found here are in no way intended to substitute for medical counsel from a healthcare professional. Always use your own good judgement and seek professional advice when in doubt about a health concern.

Amazon.com affiliate link

Copyright 1997-2017 by Gentle Christian Mothers™
An alternative-minded, evangelical Christian community supporting attachment parenting and natural living.

Do not post content elsewhere.
http://www.gentlechristianmothers.com/community/

Some smilies created and copyrighted by Mazeguy.
Some smilies and avatars created and copyrighted by flowermama and children -- do not use elsewhere.

Soli Deo Gloria
To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. ~ Romans 16:27 (KJV)

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.