Nausea that comes and goes...

NovelMama · 08-01-2016, 10:22 AM

Over the last month or so AJ has dealt with nausea that comes and goes and lots of bouts of "throwing up in her mouth."

She'd taken a probiotic pretty much daily for ages, though I *did* change to a new one recently, but the stomach issues don't happen every day even though she takes the probiotic nearly every day. Is it possible that it's too strong for her? But if it is, wouldn't she have an issue every day?

I thought maybe it was bottled-up worry or fear, but I've talked with her multiple times and there doesn't seem to be anything that she's obsessing or stressing out over.

Sometimes she'll decide that she's just really hungry, and she'll eat and be fine, but other times she'll say she doesn't want to eat because she thinks it'll make her throw up.

Thoughts?? I'm baffled!

Aerynne · 08-01-2016, 10:25 AM

"throwing up in her mouth" sounds like reflux. Even having that happen to me repeatedly would be enough to cause me anxiety-induced nausea.

Things you can try:

HCl
apple cider vinegar
digestive enzymes
papaya enzymes

Or you could try an OTC reflux med. At least if you did that you would know if it was reflux or not.

Pragmatist · 08-01-2016, 01:11 PM

I agree with Aerynne. It sounds like reflux.

Apple cider vinegar would be the cheapest thing to try. It might be difficult to get her to drink it, though. I would try maybe a 1/2 TBSP in a glass of water.

If she can swallow pills, I would have her try Betaine HCl.

ValiantJoy07 · 08-01-2016, 02:43 PM

My AJ is having the same thing, except not the throwing up in her mouth thing, but occasionally vomiting at night from it. She won't eat, but I suspect it is blood sugar related.

I had the same thing growing up, my current theory is drainage (she has a little cough some times) into her stomach and low blood sugar making her ill.

I also wonder if there is not some sort of hormone shift that happens around 6-7, because my memories of it are so very similar to the nausea I got from birth control pills and pregnancy. I didn't start puberty until 11 or 12 but I wonder if some thing starts at that age (like boys get a testosterone surge) that makes the body more susceptible to blood sugar issues and feelings of nausea.

HomeWithMyBabies · 08-01-2016, 02:53 PM

Kombucha might be helpful if you can't get her to take any ACV.

NovelMama · 08-01-2016, 07:18 PM

There's no way she'd drink AVC or Kombucha. Sensory issues. :/

cobluegirl · 08-02-2016, 09:04 AM

I seem to recall J doing this about that age. I do think some of it is hormone related. Has she shown any signs of starting menses? blood sugar is also probably related.

ValiantJoy07 · 08-02-2016, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovelMama

There's no way she'd drink AVC or Kombucha. Sensory issues. :/

Have you tried JT's kombucha? They have it at my local target. The trilogy is super fizzy and tastes just like soda.

camperjen · 08-02-2016, 10:46 AM

I would go with the possibly most obvious first and cut the probiotics either completely (if possible) or move to only a couple of times a week. It is definitely possible to over-ferment the gut with probiotics. Symptoms would be gas and bloating (I know this can be a symptom of early probiotic use as systemic yeast die off, but it's also a sign of too much). Both of those could easily be construed as a bellyache or cause reflux in an otherwise healthy body where reflux isn't a common problem.

08-01-2016, 10:22 AM	#1
NovelMama Rose Garden Our sweet family, 2017 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 8,882	Nausea that comes and goes... Over the last month or so AJ has dealt with nausea that comes and goes and lots of bouts of "throwing up in her mouth." She'd taken a probiotic pretty much daily for ages, though I did change to a new one recently, but the stomach issues don't happen every day even though she takes the probiotic nearly every day. Is it possible that it's too strong for her? But if it is, wouldn't she have an issue every day? I thought maybe it was bottled-up worry or fear, but I've talked with her multiple times and there doesn't seem to be anything that she's obsessing or stressing out over. Sometimes she'll decide that she's just really hungry, and she'll eat and be fine, but other times she'll say she doesn't want to eat because she thinks it'll make her throw up. Thoughts?? I'm baffled! __________________ Alison wife to Daniel mother to AJ (12/28/05) and PJ (03/19/08) Inspirational Women's Fiction author Children's storybook author Homeschool coach

08-01-2016, 10:25 AM	#2
Aerynne Rose Garden Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 27,359	Re: Nausea that comes and goes... "throwing up in her mouth" sounds like reflux. Even having that happen to me repeatedly would be enough to cause me anxiety-induced nausea. Things you can try: HCl apple cider vinegar digestive enzymes papaya enzymes Or you could try an OTC reflux med. At least if you did that you would know if it was reflux or not. __________________ Erin born of water and of the Spirit 4/96 married 5/02 Mama to: 2004 2007 2010 2012 2017 2019 Jan 2, 2024 And many I hope to hold in heaven one day

08-01-2016, 01:11 PM	#3
Pragmatist Rose Garden Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,924	Re: Nausea that comes and goes... I agree with Aerynne. It sounds like reflux. Apple cider vinegar would be the cheapest thing to try. It might be difficult to get her to drink it, though. I would try maybe a 1/2 TBSP in a glass of water. If she can swallow pills, I would have her try Betaine HCl. __________________ Sara (ISTJ) married to V since 7/99 Strawberry Shortcake- 3/07 Huckleberry Pie- 9/11

08-01-2016, 02:43 PM	#4
ValiantJoy07 Rose Garden "Take Joy Home, And make a place in thy great heart for her...Joy is the grace we say to God." ~Jean Ingelow~ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Forest Posts: 16,337	Re: Nausea that comes and goes... My AJ is having the same thing, except not the throwing up in her mouth thing, but occasionally vomiting at night from it. She won't eat, but I suspect it is blood sugar related. I had the same thing growing up, my current theory is drainage (she has a little cough some times) into her stomach and low blood sugar making her ill. I also wonder if there is not some sort of hormone shift that happens around 6-7, because my memories of it are so very similar to the nausea I got from birth control pills and pregnancy. I didn't start puberty until 11 or 12 but I wonder if some thing starts at that age (like boys get a testosterone surge) that makes the body more susceptible to blood sugar issues and feelings of nausea. __________________ Hannah Joy Intuitive People Loving Introvert Married since '05 to Ryan software and web applications developer. Homeschooling Mama to my 5 Joys... dd1 RJ (12/07), dd2 AJ (08/09), dd3 PJ (01/12), ds1 Ziggy (09/15), ds2 Sunny (05/18) Enjoying a Healing Diet to manage SPD and other health challenges. Sorry for the typos and sloppy grammar I don't have a good excuse anymore.

08-01-2016, 02:53 PM	#5
HomeWithMyBabies Rose Garden Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,062	Re: Nausea that comes and goes... Kombucha might be helpful if you can't get her to take any ACV.

08-01-2016, 07:18 PM	#6
NovelMama Rose Garden Our sweet family, 2017 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 8,882	Re: Nausea that comes and goes... There's no way she'd drink AVC or Kombucha. Sensory issues. :/ __________________ Alison wife to Daniel mother to AJ (12/28/05) and PJ (03/19/08) Inspirational Women's Fiction author Children's storybook author Homeschool coach

08-02-2016, 09:04 AM	#7
cobluegirl Rose Garden never be afraid of who you were meant to be Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 43,819	Re: Nausea that comes and goes... I seem to recall J doing this about that age. I do think some of it is hormone related. Has she shown any signs of starting menses? blood sugar is also probably related. __________________ T4/1 ISTJ Enneagram 9 Ds-T4/2 Dd1-T1/4 Dd2-T2/1 The greatest challenge for most of us is believing that we are worthy now, right this minute. Worthiness doesn't have prerequisites. ~Brene Brown "The Gifts of Imperfection"[/CENTER]

08-02-2016, 10:46 AM	#9
camperjen Rose Trellis i love life! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Akron/Canton, OH Posts: 2,028	Re: Nausea that comes and goes... I would go with the possibly most obvious first and cut the probiotics either completely (if possible) or move to only a couple of times a week. It is definitely possible to over-ferment the gut with probiotics. Symptoms would be gas and bloating (I know this can be a symptom of early probiotic use as systemic yeast die off, but it's also a sign of too much). Both of those could easily be construed as a bellyache or cause reflux in an otherwise healthy body where reflux isn't a common problem. __________________ Jen 54, Dan 59 Alex 18 Nathan 17

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