Tooth decay is there any genetic component?

Beauty4Ashes · 08-01-2016, 03:49 PM

The kids' new dentist says no, it is all about diet and proper brushing and flossing. I felt pretty shamed tbh. I didn't have a single cavity until I was 21, but CA has fluoridated water. My kids eat a healthier diet than I did, but their brushing and my staying on top of their brushing is not so great.

dh's teeth are bad,tons of dental work needed, but he is very meticulous about brushing and flossing and healthy eating. Help?

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HomeWithMyBabies · 08-01-2016, 04:02 PM

I think your dentist is wrong, some deficiencies that could impact teeth can be related to mutations or absorption problems, and those aren't always obvious.

Sometimes you can do everything right and still have problems. It's important to do what you can of course, but nothing is perfect.

My parents and my sibling all have multiple fillings and dental issues and I haven't. We were all in the same house, drinking the same water and brushing with the same toothpaste.

Beauty4Ashes · 08-01-2016, 04:20 PM

He uses this website called my smile guide. I found the assumptions made to be kind of harsh. It has a dental health questionnaire. Things like do you get anxious if your child gets upset and use sweets to calm him/her? Are you suffering from anxiety and depression which affects the food you/your child eat? I'm paraphrasing, when I am on a desk top, I can copy and paste.

In my case, I didn't realize that children should see a dentist once they had teeth; I waited until they were 3. The first 3+ years of my older two boys' lives, Dh was working 80-100 hours a week and my oldest had an undiagnosed asd. It was crazy hard. But, their diet was really healthy, very little in the way of sweets. I hate the assumptions being made. My littlest one mostly snacks on protein in the car. He asked me if I decided to change how I do things. Um, he likes string cheese and kebab. It's not something I did.

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Katigre · 08-01-2016, 04:34 PM

I have a theory that our lower vitamin D levels plus the depletion of mineral content in the soil (which means fewer minerals in our food) are hidden contributors to childhood tooth decay.

AngelaVA · 08-01-2016, 05:19 PM

I am 38 years old and I have never had a cavity. My kids have both had the same diet and level of dental care and one has not had any cavities and the other has had tons, bad enough that she's had extractions on 2 baby teeth and has 4 crowns (she's 7). My husband had a ton of cavities as a child as well and a few as an adult. I absolutely think it's hereditary, one child got my teeth and one got his.

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2sunshines · 08-01-2016, 05:24 PM

I believe that there is a genetic component to it.

No science to back my assertion, just similar experiences to what everyone else is sharing.

Beauty4Ashes · 08-01-2016, 05:46 PM

I was ticked, I was waiting 45 minutes assuming that L was going to get dental work done and instead I got a lecture about her teeth and come back in two weeks for the procedure. One sleepy baby plus getting shamed, it was not a good visit.

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AngelaVA · 08-01-2016, 06:03 PM

Honestly I think they justify and get paid the outrageous fees with the guilt/shaming system. They can tell themselves it's ok to charge that much because if parents did their jobs there wouldn't be the issues and they can make sure parents don't complain that way either. I had a dentist treat me that way once about my child with cavities, I fired him and drove father to someone else.

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3PeasInAPod · 08-01-2016, 06:42 PM

I wouldn't go back. My dentist says genetics are a factor.

Beauty4Ashes · 08-01-2016, 07:29 PM

I will get the work done. But. Dh will be switching jobs in October. It is highly likely that his insurance won't cover this guy. It's a shame. The woman who was the kids' dentist was absolutely wonderful, but she had a baby.

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SamRose · 08-01-2016, 07:41 PM

Tooth enamel is forming in the womb, and even just using my 4 kids and another mom I know who had 8 kids as examples, it was obvious that our kids with whom we were sickest during pregnancy (i.e. couldnt eat much, or keep much down, or ate anything, no matter how unhealthy as long as it settled our stomachs) had the worst teeth, and the ones where we felt best (i.e. ate the best and were able to keep it down) had the strongest teeth.

I also think what Katigre mentioned could be part of the issue.

Another factor I think could be here is that kids eat more often, good or bad foods, than kids used to. Even if many small meals or portions throughout the day are better for the metabolism than 3 squares a day, if you're having food on your teeth more often, maybe that's contributing to the increase in cavities this generation, too. (Dont get me started on kids getting snacks at every little gathering/class/activity.) I never had a cavity growing up and I didnt even brush twice/day, nor did I floss more than to get something in particular out of my teeth. DH was the same. So genetically speaking I was expecting no issues with my kids, but unfortunately that wasnt the case.

mommychem · 08-01-2016, 08:13 PM

My first and third children have decay. My second has perfect teeth. I'm left

. I'm

that this fourth one doesn't have teeth issues. He has six teeth already at nine months old.

Beth1231 · 08-02-2016, 03:10 PM

I hope you can get a different dentist! I would be angry being spoken to and patronized that way!
I would probably give him a lecture on bedside manner

I think genetics are a factor in pretty much Everything related to a person's health. How much of a factor varies from person to person.

mommylove · 08-02-2016, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Beth1231

I hope you can get a different dentist! I would be angry being spoken to and patronized that way!
I would probably give him a lecture on bedside manner

I think genetics are a factor in pretty much Everything related to a person's health. How much of a factor varies from person to person.

ditto

Beauty4Ashes · 08-02-2016, 03:26 PM

One last appointment. By October, we will have a different insurance, so I will no longer be going to that practice.

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08-01-2016, 03:49 PM	#1
Beauty4Ashes Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,095	Tooth decay is there any genetic component? The kids' new dentist says no, it is all about diet and proper brushing and flossing. I felt pretty shamed tbh. I didn't have a single cavity until I was 21, but CA has fluoridated water. My kids eat a healthier diet than I did, but their brushing and my staying on top of their brushing is not so great. dh's teeth are bad,tons of dental work needed, but he is very meticulous about brushing and flossing and healthy eating. Help? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Tammy--ISTJ wife to AbuBa(6/2001) mom to B (6/2004) D (6/2005) L 4/2008 R 9/2015 Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that they might be glorified.

08-01-2016, 04:02 PM	#2
HomeWithMyBabies Rose Garden Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,062	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? I think your dentist is wrong, some deficiencies that could impact teeth can be related to mutations or absorption problems, and those aren't always obvious. Sometimes you can do everything right and still have problems. It's important to do what you can of course, but nothing is perfect. My parents and my sibling all have multiple fillings and dental issues and I haven't. We were all in the same house, drinking the same water and brushing with the same toothpaste.

08-01-2016, 04:20 PM	#3
Beauty4Ashes Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,095	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? He uses this website called my smile guide. I found the assumptions made to be kind of harsh. It has a dental health questionnaire. Things like do you get anxious if your child gets upset and use sweets to calm him/her? Are you suffering from anxiety and depression which affects the food you/your child eat? I'm paraphrasing, when I am on a desk top, I can copy and paste. In my case, I didn't realize that children should see a dentist once they had teeth; I waited until they were 3. The first 3+ years of my older two boys' lives, Dh was working 80-100 hours a week and my oldest had an undiagnosed asd. It was crazy hard. But, their diet was really healthy, very little in the way of sweets. I hate the assumptions being made. My littlest one mostly snacks on protein in the car. He asked me if I decided to change how I do things. Um, he likes string cheese and kebab. It's not something I did. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Tammy--ISTJ wife to AbuBa(6/2001) mom to B (6/2004) D (6/2005) L 4/2008 R 9/2015 Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that they might be glorified.

08-01-2016, 04:34 PM	#4
Katigre Rose Garden Why thank you, it is naturally blue... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,278	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? I have a theory that our lower vitamin D levels plus the depletion of mineral content in the soil (which means fewer minerals in our food) are hidden contributors to childhood tooth decay.

08-01-2016, 05:19 PM	#5
AngelaVA Rose Garden Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 11,512	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? I am 38 years old and I have never had a cavity. My kids have both had the same diet and level of dental care and one has not had any cavities and the other has had tons, bad enough that she's had extractions on 2 baby teeth and has 4 crowns (she's 7). My husband had a ton of cavities as a child as well and a few as an adult. I absolutely think it's hereditary, one child got my teeth and one got his. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Wife to David since July 2005, Mama to Genevieve born June 2006 and to Gabrielle born February 2009

08-01-2016, 05:24 PM	#6
2sunshines Moderator in Celebrations, Cloth Diapering & EC, Empty Arms, Prayer & Praise, and Swap n' Shop Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 27,029	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? I believe that there is a genetic component to it. No science to back my assertion, just similar experiences to what everyone else is sharing. __________________ married 25 years mom to two young adults (23 and 20) and two teens (17 and 15)

08-01-2016, 05:46 PM	#7
Beauty4Ashes Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,095	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? I was ticked, I was waiting 45 minutes assuming that L was going to get dental work done and instead I got a lecture about her teeth and come back in two weeks for the procedure. One sleepy baby plus getting shamed, it was not a good visit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Tammy--ISTJ wife to AbuBa(6/2001) mom to B (6/2004) D (6/2005) L 4/2008 R 9/2015 Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that they might be glorified.

08-01-2016, 06:03 PM	#8
AngelaVA Rose Garden Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 11,512	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? Honestly I think they justify and get paid the outrageous fees with the guilt/shaming system. They can tell themselves it's ok to charge that much because if parents did their jobs there wouldn't be the issues and they can make sure parents don't complain that way either. I had a dentist treat me that way once about my child with cavities, I fired him and drove father to someone else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Wife to David since July 2005, Mama to Genevieve born June 2006 and to Gabrielle born February 2009

08-01-2016, 06:42 PM	#9
3PeasInAPod Deactivated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: pnw Posts: 8,571	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? I wouldn't go back. My dentist says genetics are a factor.

08-01-2016, 07:29 PM	#10
Beauty4Ashes Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,095	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? I will get the work done. But. Dh will be switching jobs in October. It is highly likely that his insurance won't cover this guy. It's a shame. The woman who was the kids' dentist was absolutely wonderful, but she had a baby. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Tammy--ISTJ wife to AbuBa(6/2001) mom to B (6/2004) D (6/2005) L 4/2008 R 9/2015 Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that they might be glorified.

08-01-2016, 07:41 PM	#11
SamRose Rose Garden I <3 these cuties! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: WI Posts: 16,728	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? Tooth enamel is forming in the womb, and even just using my 4 kids and another mom I know who had 8 kids as examples, it was obvious that our kids with whom we were sickest during pregnancy (i.e. couldnt eat much, or keep much down, or ate anything, no matter how unhealthy as long as it settled our stomachs) had the worst teeth, and the ones where we felt best (i.e. ate the best and were able to keep it down) had the strongest teeth. I also think what Katigre mentioned could be part of the issue. Another factor I think could be here is that kids eat more often, good or bad foods, than kids used to. Even if many small meals or portions throughout the day are better for the metabolism than 3 squares a day, if you're having food on your teeth more often, maybe that's contributing to the increase in cavities this generation, too. (Dont get me started on kids getting snacks at every little gathering/class/activity.) I never had a cavity growing up and I didnt even brush twice/day, nor did I floss more than to get something in particular out of my teeth. DH was the same. So genetically speaking I was expecting no issues with my kids, but unfortunately that wasnt the case.

08-01-2016, 08:13 PM	#12
mommychem Rose Garden Butterfly on my face :) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Louisiana Posts: 6,955	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? My first and third children have decay. My second has perfect teeth. I'm left . I'm that this fourth one doesn't have teeth issues. He has six teeth already at nine months old. __________________ Wife with 5 DC Former Chemist

08-02-2016, 03:10 PM	#13
Beth1231 Deactivated Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 14,962	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? I hope you can get a different dentist! I would be angry being spoken to and patronized that way! I would probably give him a lecture on bedside manner I think genetics are a factor in pretty much Everything related to a person's health. How much of a factor varies from person to person.

08-02-2016, 03:26 PM	#15
Beauty4Ashes Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,095	Re: Tooth decay is there any genetic component? One last appointment. By October, we will have a different insurance, so I will no longer be going to that practice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Tammy--ISTJ wife to AbuBa(6/2001) mom to B (6/2004) D (6/2005) L 4/2008 R 9/2015 Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that they might be glorified.

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