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08-17-2014, 03:33 PM | #1 | |
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Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
Has anybody read this article yet?
http://www.businessinsider.com/glute...ication-2014-5 Quote:
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08-17-2014, 03:40 PM | #2 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
It's one study. And I'd be interested in how they switched between the diets. If they didn't give significant time in between, someone could be reacting to gluten that they had consumed previously.
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08-17-2014, 04:04 PM | #3 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
I call baloney. Going gluten free has literally and absolutely changed my life. And I have VERY real effects from cheating.
And you know what, I went gluten free for my fertility issues. I was never expecting it to affect my energy and arthritis like it did, so that couldn't possibly be placebo. I didn't even notice it had helped those until I cheated the first time, and then suddenly I was again feeling like I used to feel all the time.
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08-17-2014, 04:50 PM | #4 | ||
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
Those kind of reports were/are just a deliberately inflammatory misinterpretation of the actual study
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Gluten-Free Girl: "Not Again" *WARNING* for language at the link
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08-17-2014, 06:14 PM | #5 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
So how would they explain the severe and immediate heartburn and gastrointestinal distress I used to get from consuming gluten? The skin rashes I used to have before I switched to GF topical products? (I was just telling DH this morning about how since I finally found and switched to a good gluten-free foundation recently, I have not had any of the red rashy bumps I used to get on my face! Just like I no longer have rashes on my arms since I found GF soap and shampoo.)
Not to my mention that my pms cramping diminished significantly when I went GF, and brain fog I didn't even realize I had lifted. I also noticed a pattern of raging behaviors in DS when he lots of gluten, and verified that this occurred several times. He is now GF and doing about 90% better on that front. It makes me kind of when people deny this experience and try to say it's all in my head. They could be keeping a lot of people from trying something that will make them feel much better!
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08-17-2014, 07:45 PM | #6 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
I didn't read the link/article etc... but
When even anything says words like never or always ect I tend to call baloney as well. I do though think their is possibly a higher percentage of people in recent history who have heard all they "hype" (for lack of a better word) on going gluten free and have then decided that doing so them self has magically cured them often of things they never really had in the first place. I'll put my MIL right in that category who happily gives going "gluten" free credit for all kinds of things except... 1) She never truly suffered from more than complaining too much and 2) she never gone gluten free more than a few days a time but swears that she is suddenly cured of XYZ then suddenly plagued again when she goes off the diet. I don't think that gluten free or rather gluten free alternatives as always the best or healthier way (not referring to those who truly are gluten restricted) as in consuming a lot of say alternative pastas or gluten free cereals etc than are often very low in any nutritional value. etc... I do think we all benifit from eliminating or at least greatly reducing hidden gluten like MSG. I alos think focusing on more "real foods" and lower carbs reducing eliminating processed foods empty or low value carbs et for many is always a better choice... To suggest though that is can't or doesn't exist though I don't by either.
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08-17-2014, 07:49 PM | #7 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
Yeah, those migraines I always thought were hormonal, that went away when I went gluten-free? Totally placeholders. That explains why after two years of solidly gluten-free eating, when ds2 weaned and I cheated, and didn't experience the GI issues that I used to, and I thought, "Hey, I won't make it a regular part of my diet, but maybe I've had enough gut healing to have it on occasion," that soon after I came down with a migraine that was beyond any "mechanical" (ie, something misaligned in neck or shoulder, pinching a nerve or muscle) migraine I'd had, and even worse than the 3x/week migraines I remembered having during ds1's pregnancy before I'd ever been diagnosed as gluten intolerant... yeah, that was all in my head. Being unable to sta d upright without puking (even on an empty stomach) because of how bad that migraine was... yeah, those weren't hormones, baby. That was gluten.
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08-17-2014, 07:55 PM | #8 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
I'm sure c imagines himself into not pooping for a week and having immediate stomach pains. Even though the last time I accidentally glutened him he was 5 and didn't know what gluten was.
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08-17-2014, 08:22 PM | #9 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
I just finished reading the book "Grain Brain", which talked tons about how carbs in general are bad for brain health, but it went extensively into studies about gluten issues. The doctor who wrote the book is a neurologist who has seen many a patient who had been looking and looking for answers with no success. When he put them on gluten free diets, their issues resolved themselves. He also talked about how people who are not celiac can be gluten sensitive, and has seen repeated success after success in treating patients by advocating for a gluten free diet. It was a really good read, and he had the studies and clinical experience to back up his expertise.
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08-17-2014, 08:30 PM | #10 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
I like not having that really specific gut pain anymore, that pain reminds me of when I got admitted to the hospital and threatened with surgical removal of part of my bowels.
What can I say, I am just too special I guess. It's just so highly offensive that I don't eat gluten even though it won't immediately kill me, people have to comment on how annoying it is that I avoid something that causes me discomfort. |
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08-19-2014, 09:48 AM | #11 |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
They cycled through a regular diet, gf diet, and high gluten diet with two weeks on each. That is not enough time to tell anything. The study also took people with gastro issues and said the gastro issues remained on all three diets. So they weren't made up problems, these people identified themselves as people with gut issues and said gf helped them. Then they ate gluten for two weeks, didn't eat gluten for two weeks, and ate gluten again for two weeks and had gut problems the whole time. The article completely misrepresents the study, and the study proves nothing.
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08-19-2014, 05:25 PM | #13 | |
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Re: Gluten Sensitivity May Not Exist
Thanks for all the info and great links!
It seems like maybe people who are on gluten free diets aren't actually sensitive to gluten but are sensitive to FODMAPS: Quote:
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08-19-2014, 06:22 PM | #14 | |
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ETA: I do have other sensitivities, though, just not to the same level.
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