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Old 05-22-2010, 08:10 PM   #1
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6c or 30x?
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Default Re: Which has more in a homeopathic

30 x is stronger

---------- Post added at 03:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:14 AM ----------

Wait...now I'm confusing myself b/c x's are in 10's and c's are in 100's...

let me think on this!

Oh...and to make it even more convoluted stronger is less so if your wanting to know which has more it would be the opposite.
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Default Re: Which has more in a homeopathic

C's are more potent.

X is lowest
C is middlish and is the potency most used by parents at home...30C is the usual dose for a homeopathic. I keep 200C arnica in my purse though.
M is high potency stuff
LM is super high potency
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Sorry I know that's totally confusing!

Ok...

Any number with C is one part remedy/100 parts water for 1C. 2C would be to take one part of that mixture and mix it with 100 parts water (or alcohol). X uses the ration 1:10

So 6c is 1 part remedy 100 parts water, take one part that/100 parts water....6 times. So the ration is 1:10 to the power of 12.

30x would be 1:10 to the power of 29

So therefore 30x is more diluted and has less remedy

And 30x is stronger

Clear as mud?
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To make it more confusing it's not just the dilution process. It is the succussion that takes place each time the remedy is diluted that gives it potency. 30X has 1 part in 300 v/s 1 part in 600 but it has been succussed 30 times rather than only 6. They are used differently.

Some links to further confuse you

http://abchomeopathy.com/help/potency.htm
http://www.ritecare.com/homeopathic/guide_potency.asp
http://www.elixirs.com/faq.htm
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To make it more confusing it's not just the dilution process. It is the succussion that takes place each time the remedy is diluted that gives it potency. 30X has 1 part in 300 v/s 1 part in 600 but it has been succussed 30 times rather than only 6. They are used differently.

Some links to further confuse you

http://abchomeopathy.com/help/potency.htm
http://www.ritecare.com/homeopathic/guide_potency.asp
http://www.elixirs.com/faq.htm

Ohhhh...good one. I forgot about that aspect. I'm thinking about it from a purely mathematical standpoint.
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Default Re: Which has more in a homeopathic

Ok...so let me just ask this....

I had the choice to buy Belladonna 30x or Belladonna 6c tonight and I bought the former. So....should I have bought the other? Cause I am really confused! Should I give more? Or less? Or the same? I am giving 2 at a time right now.
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Ok...this is going to make homeopathy sound even more quacky but it doesn't matter how much you give. One pellet is the same as 2 is the same as 4.... Its more about how often your dosing than the amount your dosing.

They didn't have 30c? I always start with 30c. Not sure what I would have chosen b/w those two but I'm sure 30x will be fine.
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I am SOOOOO confused. I don't know if I can ever make sense of this. If it doesn't matter how much you give, then what does it matter at all what the number and letter on the bottle are.
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It's not about quantity, it's about the strength of the stimulus.

30X is a good one to start with if you're not 100% sure of the remedy. You may find you need to give it more often than a C potency. Personally if I had to choose between 30X and 6C I'd probably grab the 30X because I find it gives clearer immediate results, though it doesn't work as deeply or subtly. If you're totally sure about the remedy choice then you'd want a 30C or higher.

Bottom line - to someone not familiar with homeopathy you probably won't notice a huge difference between the two options you had available other than the 30X being a bit shorter acting.

Belladonna is also a remedy that usually starts working quickly and sometimes dramatically. Though it can be used for chronic conditions, one common use is for a very high fever with a flushed face. One time I saw it bring a 105 fever down to 102 within 15 minutes and back down to normal within about 2 hrs. No joke.
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I am SOOOOO confused. I don't know if I can ever make sense of this. If it doesn't matter how much you give, then what does it matter at all what the number and letter on the bottle are.
Well there is more potency in different strengths so it definitely matters. Its not like alopathic medicine though so its not something you can overdose on by the amount you take (although you can take too high of a potency). The other problem that makes homeopathy confusing is there are different schools of thought on it. Classical says to take one dose and let it take affect. It claims once healing is in motion you don't need another dose until the healing stops. So...if you are treating a fever and the fever starts to go down upon treatment, you don't give another dose until the fevers tops going down. Then you'd dose again. Other's think you give doses every 5 mins or 10 mins or so on. Its confusing. I know.

Homeopathy is confusing and fascinating. If I hadn't had so many amazing real life experiences with it I would think it was complete and utter hogwash because it sure sounds bogus! But I've seen remedies do crazy things. Just like recently with my poor Avi and having the gate and boy fall on her. Her head was bruised up badly. Gave her 200C arnica and the next morning just barely a faint bruise...by the afternoon when daddy got home from his trip...NOTHING! Made me look like a crazy over paranoid mom.

But as for the original question. The best I can answer it, is homeopathy works on the basis that Like cures like. So if you have a high fever you take belladonna. Belladonna is a poisonous plant that causes high fever. According to like cures like, diluted down so its safe...it will cure the fever. Doesn't matter the amount...in theory your body will be cured by the like amount regardless if its a little or a lot. However...if you were to take belladonna 6c your fever may start to go down a few degrees and then its out of your system very quickly b/c its a weak strength and bam...your fever is back high. So if you notice an improvement and that stalls or goes back to where it was, then your dosing is too low. Does that make any more sense at all?
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And taking 6C x2 tablets is not the same as taking 12C? Why?
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I may have a way to explain it.

Think of taking a remedy as giving your body a to tell it to heal itself. The potency of the remedy is how hard you .

Now if you poke me once you have my attention. If you poke me three times in a row (give more pellets) you still have only gotten my attention one time. If you poke me now and then poke me again 15 minutes later you have now gotten my attention twice - same as giving two doses of the remedy 15 minutes apart.

Standard directions say to give multiple pellets. Theoretically one is enough. In practice I have heard it suggested to give a few "in case one's a dud." I don't know about the veracity of that but I do know that buying one pack (three vials) of Oscillococcinum for the flu is enough for the whole family, contrary to the label instructions which would like you to buy a pack for each family member.
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I may have a way to explain it.

Think of taking a remedy as giving your body a to tell it to heal itself. The potency of the remedy is how hard you .

Now if you poke me once you have my attention. If you poke me three times in a row (give more pellets) you still have only gotten my attention one time. If you poke me now and then poke me again 15 minutes later you have now gotten my attention twice - same as giving two doses of the remedy 15 minutes apart.

Standard directions say to give multiple pellets. Theoretically one is enough. In practice I have heard it suggested to give a few "in case one's a dud." I don't know about the veracity of that but I do know that buying one pack (three vials) of Oscillococcinum for the flu is enough for the whole family, contrary to the label instructions which would like you to buy a pack for each family member.
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