How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding?

WaitPatientlyOnTheLord · 04-09-2014, 06:25 PM

How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding? (Worried about detoxing, not alcohol) Will I know if Im lightly detoxing?

ECingMama · 04-09-2014, 06:36 PM

I probably wouldn't start it with a baby who is not eating solids...

WaitPatientlyOnTheLord · 04-10-2014, 05:36 AM

Oh my! I never heard of that before! I've been drinking a little all along but have finally started brewing my own so now i have access to a lot more than before and just wasn't surehow much self restraint i needed to be using. So if I've been drinking one glass pet day and seeing no ill effects, is it safe to keep doing that?

Dovenoir · 04-10-2014, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by reneandbaby

My friend's brother just got really, really sick from drinking kombucha---- sick as in he showed up in the emergency room with a Ph of 6.8, a lactic acid of 20, spent three weeks on a ventilator and basically is lucky he is alive. He just moved to a rehab hospital today.

It is a very rare complication of drinking kombucha, but considering the risk/benefit trade-offs here, I personally wouldn't risk it with a baby. There isn't a need.

Forgive me from asking, but was he a regular kombucha drinker? Someone to tried it, loved it and jumped in drinking a ton and it backfired? Or was this the first week he's tried it an he was going slow? (And I know it's thirdhand info, IDK is a fine answer

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WPTL- You can use K vinegar the way you would use ACV. I'd drink less than 4 ounces a day at this point. Once Uli is handling solids and more than 20 lbs them move to 4 oz twice a day?

milkdud · 04-10-2014, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WaitPatientlyOnTheLord

Oh my! I never heard of that before! I've been drinking a little all along but have finally started brewing my own so now i have access to a lot more than before and just wasn't surehow much self restraint i needed to be using. So if I've been drinking one glass pet day and seeing no ill effects, is it safe to keep doing that?

This is fine. The general concern is going from drinking none to tons. My dh is one who had significant detox from booch initially. His body very clearly told him.

I give little sips to my babies if they ask.

Kind of a slight tangent, and not saying you do this, but it's baffling to me when people question consuming whole foods and drinks, but have no problem eating garbage. I have had people freak out on me when they see my kids drink kombucha, yet they give their kids koolaid or similar chemically laden foods. Color me befuddled.

Punkie · 04-10-2014, 08:22 AM

As Rene mentioned, the CDC does have info on this, although they're still not sure why it happens - http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00039742.htm

At recent conferences and symposiums that I've been to, there has been concern about kombucha. A big part of the concern has been the fact that you are populating your gut with sugar-loving bacteria, and that it feeds a candida/sugar craving cycle. The more you drink, the more you are populated with the bacteria, and the more you want... There are many who believe that this is what leads regular kombucha drinkers to behave in an almost addictive nature towards it.

As the CDC info has come out, there have been additional warnings posted on my herbalism boards to further limit kombucha consumption.

So, there isn't a hard-and-fast limit to the number of ounces that a person should drink, but definitely several reasons to exercise caution.

milkdud · 04-10-2014, 09:00 AM

I forgot this, but I remember reading while pregnant, that kombucha can pull heavy metals particularly mercury. I wonder if that plays into the strong reactions some have to it.

WaitPatientlyOnTheLord · 04-10-2014, 04:42 PM

Wow, thats very interesting. I read the CDC thing, thanks for that link. I'll probably poke around for some more info online.

Thanks ladies!

chelsea · 11-24-2015, 09:00 PM

Stumbled upon this post and yikes, have never heard of this! I only tried kombucha for the first time about a month and a half ago and enjoyed it, and have had it several times since then.
Is this frightening episode that sometimes happens something that would set in right away after drinking it, or is it a slow build up that could affect someone days or weeks down the road? Rene, do you know how soon it affected your friend's brother after drinking it?

04-09-2014, 06:25 PM	#1
WaitPatientlyOnTheLord Rose Garden I'm most definitely an INFJ. ;-) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New England, USA Posts: 7,264	How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding? How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding? (Worried about detoxing, not alcohol) Will I know if Im lightly detoxing?

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04-10-2014, 05:36 AM	#3
WaitPatientlyOnTheLord Rose Garden I'm most definitely an INFJ. ;-) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New England, USA Posts: 7,264	Re: How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding? Oh my! I never heard of that before! I've been drinking a little all along but have finally started brewing my own so now i have access to a lot more than before and just wasn't surehow much self restraint i needed to be using. So if I've been drinking one glass pet day and seeing no ill effects, is it safe to keep doing that?

04-10-2014, 08:22 AM	#6
Punkie Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,092	Re: How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding? As Rene mentioned, the CDC does have info on this, although they're still not sure why it happens - http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00039742.htm At recent conferences and symposiums that I've been to, there has been concern about kombucha. A big part of the concern has been the fact that you are populating your gut with sugar-loving bacteria, and that it feeds a candida/sugar craving cycle. The more you drink, the more you are populated with the bacteria, and the more you want... There are many who believe that this is what leads regular kombucha drinkers to behave in an almost addictive nature towards it. As the CDC info has come out, there have been additional warnings posted on my herbalism boards to further limit kombucha consumption. So, there isn't a hard-and-fast limit to the number of ounces that a person should drink, but definitely several reasons to exercise caution. __________________ GCM Admin and Moderator in Questions About the Message Board, Drawing Closer, Let's Talk, Weight Management, In the News, and Electronics. Homeschooling mom to 4, certified herbalist, homesteader, and overly ambitious crafter

04-10-2014, 09:00 AM	#7
milkdud Rose Trellis Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FL Posts: 3,067	Re: How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding? I forgot this, but I remember reading while pregnant, that kombucha can pull heavy metals particularly mercury. I wonder if that plays into the strong reactions some have to it. __________________ Milkdud, INFP wife to Vanilla Coke 04/2004 Jujube 03/2005 Chuckles 01/2007 Gobstopper 09/2009 Bit o' Honey 11/2012 11/2003 & 12/2011

04-10-2014, 04:42 PM	#8
WaitPatientlyOnTheLord Rose Garden I'm most definitely an INFJ. ;-) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New England, USA Posts: 7,264	Re: How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding? Wow, thats very interesting. I read the CDC thing, thanks for that link. I'll probably poke around for some more info online. Thanks ladies!

11-24-2015, 09:00 PM	#9
chelsea Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,373	Re: How much Kombucha is too much while breastfeeding? Stumbled upon this post and yikes, have never heard of this! I only tried kombucha for the first time about a month and a half ago and enjoyed it, and have had it several times since then. Is this frightening episode that sometimes happens something that would set in right away after drinking it, or is it a slow build up that could affect someone days or weeks down the road? Rene, do you know how soon it affected your friend's brother after drinking it? __________________ "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I will praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well."

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