Gentle Christian Mothers Community
 
Random Quotes from Wise Mamas

~* Please help keep GCM free by using our
Amazon.com affiliate link. Thank you! *~


Go Back   Gentle Christian Mothers Community > Specific Issues > Homeschooling & Unschooling (Support) *Public* [Open--Join Forum to Post]
Forgot Password? Join Us!

Notices

Homeschooling & Unschooling (Support) *Public* [Open--Join Forum to Post] A place for both current homeschoolers/unschoolers and those who are considering homeschooling to find support.
A public forum. A read-only forum unless you join the corresponding usergroup here.

Please Note: Everyone can read this forum, and everyone is welcome to seek and offer homeschooling/unschooling support in this forum, but to post you must join the corresponding usergroup.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-18-2022, 02:36 AM   #1
arelyn
Rose Trellis
 
Soli deo Gloria
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Amidst Tourists and Temples
Posts: 3,139
arelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond repute
Default Math Curriculum for Student with Learning Disabilities

My 11yr old DS is great at math. Or at least he was. Math was his favorite until this year when he got into multi-step multiplication problems and long division. When we got his learning disabilities diagnosed a couple of years ago (dyslexia, dysgraphia, probably ADHD) the educational psychologist was impressed with his math skills but mentioned she was interested to see what would happen once he started long division. And now I know. He can not keep track of all the steps he needs to do more complicated math questions. He also can not use a card with instructions to help him remember the steps. And if I sit with him and tell him each step in hopes that repetition will help it sink in he just gets angry.


So, any tips for helping him? Or any curriculum recommendations for next year?
__________________

arelyn
World traveling mama to my star my sunshine and the monsoon baby
Wife to my crazy ethnomusicologist


This road that we travel, may it be the straight and narrow. God give us peace and grace from you all the day through.
arelyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2022, 06:26 AM   #2
Mother of Sons
Rose Garden
 
My kid shoots laser beams from his hands
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,900
Mother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Math Curriculum for Student with Learning Disabilities

Mortensen math. It’s visual and uses manipulatives.

Here is an example. https://youtu.be/9xNJ70HAg4o
Mother of Sons is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mother of Sons For This Useful Post:
ECingMama (06-18-2022)
Old 06-18-2022, 10:04 AM   #3
knitlove
Rose Garden
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 21,260
knitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond reputeknitlove has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Math Curriculum for Student with Learning Disabilities

This is not a popular answer but if he understands the consepts if division I would not let the many steps in long division hold him back hand him a calculator. Preferably a graphing one so that the problem doesn't disappear and the leaves only the answer so he can go back and check that he entered the numbers correctly.

Honistly for years I would do all the problems that were supposed to be long division as repeated subtraction problems to get to the answer and then go back and built the work for the long division to be shown on my paper. I knew what was happening but would mix things up or get things in the wrong spot even with graph paper.

Once I got to math - not arithmetic - then I could use a calculator for all the arithmetic and everything much better.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
__________________
Wife to a wonderful DH for 19 years.
Momma to my 29 weeker Early Bird who is thirteen
and my little Wiggle Worm born 33 weeks who is nine.
How do I have a teenager?! I don't feel ready for this.
knitlove is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to knitlove For This Useful Post:
ECingMama (06-18-2022), The Tickle Momster (06-18-2022)
Old 06-18-2022, 10:33 AM   #4
ECingMama
Rose Garden
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 16,746
ECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Math Curriculum for Student with Learning Disabilities

I would try https://diveintomath.com/download-st...4-3rd-edition/ because then you don't have to be the main teacher.

Then write the problems for him so there is plenty of space for each problem.

...............

I'd also suggest https://diveintomath.com/shormann-pr...on-no-sibling/

pre-algebra and let him use a calculator
__________________
ENFp
Wife who is thankful to be in love....17 years
Homeschooling Mom of three....15 DD dancer and
12 DS mountain biker and 5 DD calico critter and dolly mommy
12/2014 8/2015 11/2015 9/2016
ECingMama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2022, 04:00 PM   #5
derdsgirl
Rose Trellis
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,871
derdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond reputederdsgirl has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Math Curriculum for Student with Learning Disabilities

The traditional way long division (and multi-digit multiplication IMO) is taught is complicated because it doesn't make any sense based on what we have taught kids up unto that point. Suddenly there is an "algorithm" to follow and that algorithm is NOT intuitive.

When I taught C long division, I chose to teach hang-man's division. It takes longer at first, and takes up more space at first, but it is intuitive. He could now do long division a more traditional way now that he really "owns" how long division works, but why change something that isn't broken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v50Z4K3Qoyg

I also did not teach C the traditional method of multi-digit multiplication either. I taught him the lattice method which is a shorthand version of the box method which is built off of blocks so is very intuitive for kids. I started with blocks, through the block method, and then lattice for shorthand. I have switched to this method of multiplication myself because there are fewer errors, it takes up less space, and it is easier to double check.

He still struggled for a while, but it was because his math facts memorization took forever for him and so he had very little confidence. He just had to learn the math facts himself, internalizing and being able to visualize them. He is not a kid that memorizes anything. Neither are DH and I. So that took a bit longer and so the longer stuff was a bit of a struggle as he was still working that out. Something clicked with the facts more recently and he is doing great with these long problems now. Even when he struggled with math facts, hang man division in particular was still very useful because he could always multiply by 10 or 100 or 1 and just take loads of extra steps to get to the answer.
derdsgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to derdsgirl For This Useful Post:
ECingMama (06-18-2022)
Old 06-19-2022, 11:33 AM   #6
arelyn
Rose Trellis
 
Soli deo Gloria
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Amidst Tourists and Temples
Posts: 3,139
arelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond reputearelyn has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Math Curriculum for Student with Learning Disabilities

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother of Sons View Post
Mortensen math. It’s visual and uses manipulatives.

Here is an example. https://youtu.be/9xNJ70HAg4o

Oh my goodness. This makes long division make so much more sense to me!
__________________

arelyn
World traveling mama to my star my sunshine and the monsoon baby
Wife to my crazy ethnomusicologist


This road that we travel, may it be the straight and narrow. God give us peace and grace from you all the day through.
arelyn is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to arelyn For This Useful Post:
Mother of Sons (06-20-2022)
Old 06-19-2022, 05:09 PM   #7
Mother of Sons
Rose Garden
 
My kid shoots laser beams from his hands
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,900
Mother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond reputeMother of Sons has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Math Curriculum for Student with Learning Disabilities

Quote:
Originally Posted by arelyn View Post
Oh my goodness. This makes long division make so much more sense to me!
It makes double digit multiplication simple too!
Mother of Sons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2022, 07:22 PM   #8
ECingMama
Rose Garden
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 16,746
ECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond reputeECingMama has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Math Curriculum for Student with Learning Disabilities

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother of Sons View Post
Mortensen math. It’s visual and uses manipulatives.

Here is an example. https://youtu.be/9xNJ70HAg4o
I love this! Thanks for sharing! I had my son watch because he "forgot" how to do it
__________________
ENFp
Wife who is thankful to be in love....17 years
Homeschooling Mom of three....15 DD dancer and
12 DS mountain biker and 5 DD calico critter and dolly mommy
12/2014 8/2015 11/2015 9/2016
ECingMama is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ECingMama For This Useful Post:
Mother of Sons (06-20-2022)
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:03 PM.


A variety of opinions and ideas are shared on GCM. Personal experiences, suggestions, and tips found here are in no way intended to substitute for medical counsel from a healthcare professional. Always use your own good judgement and seek professional advice when in doubt about a health concern.

Amazon.com affiliate link

Copyright 1997-2017 by Gentle Christian Mothers™
An alternative-minded, evangelical Christian community supporting attachment parenting and natural living.

Do not post content elsewhere.
http://www.gentlechristianmothers.com/community/

Some smilies created and copyrighted by Mazeguy.
Some smilies and avatars created and copyrighted by flowermama and children -- do not use elsewhere.

Soli Deo Gloria
To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. ~ Romans 16:27 (KJV)

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

X vBulletin 3.8.3 Debug Information
  • Page Generation 0.08444 seconds
  • Memory Usage 7,830KB
  • Queries Executed 16 (?)
More Information
Template Usage:
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_header_end
  • (1)ad_header_logo
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (1)ad_showthread_beforeqr
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start
  • (3)bbcode_quote
  • (1)cyb_flashimagebanners
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumjump
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (1)navbar
  • (3)navbar_link
  • (1)navbar_noticebit
  • (60)option
  • (8)post_groan_box
  • (1)post_groan_javascript
  • (1)post_groan_navbar_search
  • (8)post_thanks_box
  • (6)post_thanks_box_bit
  • (1)post_thanks_javascript
  • (1)post_thanks_navbar_search
  • (5)post_thanks_postbit_legacy
  • (8)postbit_legacy
  • (8)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (88)postbit_reputation
  • (8)postbit_wrapper
  • (4)showthread_bookmarksite
  • (1)smqre_editor_button
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open
  • (1)tagbit_wrapper 

Phrase Groups Available:
  • global
  • inlinemod
  • postbit
  • posting
  • reputationlevel
  • showthread
Included Files:
  • ./showthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/functions_notice.php
  • ./mobiquo/smartbanner.php
  • ./mobiquo/include/classTTConnection.php
  • ./mobiquo/smartbanner/head.inc.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • ./includes/class_postbit.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_reputation.php
  • ./includes/adminfunctions_template.php
  • ./includes/functions_misc.php
  • ./includes/functions_post_thanks.php
  • ./includes/functions_post_groan.php 

Hooks Called:
  • init_startup
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • style_fetch
  • cache_templates
  • global_start
  • parse_templates
  • fetch_musername
  • notices_check_start
  • notices_noticebit
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • template_groups
  • template_safe_functions
  • template_compile
  • showthread_getinfo
  • forumjump
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • showthread_query
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_start
  • post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_end
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_start
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_end
  • post_thanks_function_thanked_already_start
  • post_thanks_function_thanked_already_end
  • post_groan_function_post_groan_off_start
  • post_groan_function_post_groan_off_end
  • post_groan_function_fetch_groans_start
  • post_groan_function_fetch_groans_end
  • post_groan_function_groaned_already_start
  • post_groan_function_groaned_already_end
  • reputation_image
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • error_fetch
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_bit_start
  • post_thanks_function_show_thanks_date_start
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_bit_end
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_post_thanks_template_start
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_post_thanks_template_end
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • forumrules
  • showthread_bookmarkbit
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • showthread_complete