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Old 08-27-2020, 09:32 AM   #1
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I'm using the good and the beautiful for the first time. We just started it this week, level 5 language arts only. I have a question about the flash cards and sentence dictation. For those who've used it: Am I supposed to just jump in quizzing her on info she hasn't covered yet? Or do we introduce the card/dictations after this information has been presented? There are some easy cards, but also they get into identifying geography she hasn't learned and grammar rules she hasn't gotten to this year, and then the sentence dictation has like four spelling rules that each page covers, I mean am I supposed to spend time teaching her these then do the dictation then do the lesson? This is not making sense to me. Doesn't the course teach these things? In my head, they will teach, for instance, a grammar rule and then I will reinforce that rule with the cards/dictation. But from the curriculum, they don't say anything about that. But if we just go ahead and start them at the beginning, is she going to be just memorizing these things by trial and error? I'm confused!
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I've never used it. But I would look on you tube for a tutorial. There are a lot of homeschool mom's posting curriculum tutorials and example lessons. BF is a popular one so I imagine there will be some videos.

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They might be more classical inspired where the kids memorize facts and then get the explanation to use it latter.

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I wouldnít quiz her on stuff she hasnít learned. You can either introduce a new card by telling her the question and answer or wait until it is covered. For dictation you can tell her the rule before doing the dictation.
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For dictation I let me son read the rule each day. Then do up to 5 sentences as dictation. He's 12 and this is our 3rd year w/tgatb.

For the flash cards, I hand him 5 geography cards & 5 grammar cards. He works on them himself and I check him one day a week. If he can do them really well, I swap them out for new ones. If he struggles ir hesitates, he keeps them a few more days. I keep it low key.

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Old 08-27-2020, 11:14 AM   #6
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For dictation I let me son read the rule each day. Then do up to 5 sentences as dictation. He's 12 and this is our 3rd year w/tgatb.

For the flash cards, I hand him 5 geography cards & 5 grammar cards. He works on them himself and I check him one day a week. If he can do them really well, I swap them out for new ones. If he struggles ir hesitates, he keeps them a few more days. I keep it low key.

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So you do them before you learn the information on them? The how to use them I get, it's the when that I don't understand.

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They might be more classical inspired where the kids memorize facts and then get the explanation to use it latter.

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That makes sense then. We don't do that so I was really confused about it!

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I wouldnít quiz her on stuff she hasnít learned. You can either introduce a new card by telling her the question and answer or wait until it is covered. For dictation you can tell her the rule before doing the dictation.
I want to do this, I was trying to look through and see if it would tell you where they came in but it doesn't seem to. And there are reference pages that have states/countries/grammar rules to learn them, I'm assuming that at some.point the lessons will refer to those and then I put the flashcards in the learning pile?
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Yes, he learns the material as he memorized. Then he applies it as it comes up in writing, dictation, etc.

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ok so genuine question. Is all that information not in the lessons? Or is the idea behind this you memorize questions and answers without the context, then add the context in later?
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Honestly, I'm not sure. He does all his work independently. I will ask him tonight or tomorrow morning. me if i don't come back.

I know he's learning it because he brings it up in conversation.

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Are you on their Facebook group? It's pretty active and I'm sure you could find answers there.
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So you do them before you learn the information on them? The how to use them I get, it's the when that I don't understand.

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That makes sense then. We don't do that so I was really confused about it!



I want to do this, I was trying to look through and see if it would tell you where they came in but it doesn't seem to. And there are reference pages that have states/countries/grammar rules to learn them, I'm assuming that at some.point the lessons will refer to those and then I put the flashcards in the learning pile?
Honestly Iím not sure. I pretty much just let ds do level 5 on his own, just doing dictation sentences with him and checking those and the rest of his work.
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For sentence dictation, we go over the new rules at the beginning of each new page. We do 5 sentences a day. If they get one wrong, they write it correctly 5 times, and then get a chance to redo it the next day until they get it right. It's pretty straightforward, and mine rarely get the new rules wrong. They more often have to rewrite sentences for misspelling words (I don't remember if that's my rule or TGATB's rule).

For the flash cards, yes they just learn as they memorize. I have mine do 10 unmastered cards a day. They learn the card by looking at the answer side and saying it to themselves a few times, then move on to just looking at the blank side and trying to remember. When they can say the right answer without looking a few days in a row, they move it to the mastered category, and they review their mastered cards once a week. They do all of their geography flash cards themselves, I only occasionally check on their progress.

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ok so genuine question. Is all that information not in the lessons? Or is the idea behind this you memorize questions and answers without the context, then add the context in later?
Also responding to this... For the sentence rules... possibly. I know it covers a lot of rules in the lessons. For the geography, no the flash cards definitely cover way more than is in the book. I think the geography cards are meant to be used over 3 years, if I'm remembering correctly.
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