anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin to help sleep????????

hopefromgrace · 02-10-2006, 09:45 PM

hi,
wondering if anyone knows of(or has used) tryptophan or melatonin to help their little one sleep through the night?
I can't seem to get much info. on the web about it in regards to using it for a child( my dd is 2 1/2).
thanks.

hopefromgrace · 02-10-2006, 09:45 PM

hi,
wondering if anyone knows of(or has used) tryptophan or melatonin to help their little one sleep through the night?
I can't seem to get much info. on the web about it in regards to using it for a child( my dd is 2 1/2).
thanks.

MarynMunchkins · 02-10-2006, 09:49 PM

Margaret (mwwr) has.

You could PM her.

MarynMunchkins · 02-10-2006, 09:49 PM

Margaret (mwwr) has.

You could PM her.

PurpleButterfly · 02-10-2006, 10:51 PM

I wouldn't recommend giving a child any medication, hormone, or supplement to help them sleep through the night.

If their bodies are designed to sleep through the night, they will, if not, that's the way God made them. I still don't sleep through the night most nights, but cuddles with people I love sure help me fall back asleep faster.

PurpleButterfly · 02-10-2006, 10:51 PM

I wouldn't recommend giving a child any medication, hormone, or supplement to help them sleep through the night.

If their bodies are designed to sleep through the night, they will, if not, that's the way God made them. I still don't sleep through the night most nights, but cuddles with people I love sure help me fall back asleep faster.

PurpleButterfly · 02-10-2006, 10:59 PM

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In 1989, an outbreak of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS) occurred among L-tryptophan users [2]. A hitherto rare disorder, EMS is a debilitating disease characterized by severe muscle and joint pain, weakness, swelling of the arms and legs, fever, skin rash, and an increase of eosinophils (certain white blood cells) in the blood. Over the next year, more than 1,500 cases and twenty-eight deaths were reported to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [3]. The actual toll probably was more than 5,000 people, many of whom suffered for years and are still disabled. Some of the victims were children. When the link between EMS and L-tryptophan became apparent, the FDA quickly banned its sale

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Headache, excessive sedation, and transient depression have been reported, most often with doses greater than 8 mg/day. Isolated cases of rash, a psychotic episode, gynecomastia, and autoimmune hepatitis have also been reported after melatonin use, but in none of these cases has melatonin been identified as the cause.[1- 3]

In a 1998 study published in Lancet, melatonin administration to six children with underlying seizure disorders produced a worsening of seizures in three.[15]Although this finding has not been reported in other papers, the benefit to risk ratio of melatonin in patients with seizures should be carefully weighed before initiation of therapy. Because melatonin may also play a role in immune function, it is not recommended for patients with autoimmune disorders.[2]

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PurpleButterfly · 02-10-2006, 10:59 PM

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In 1989, an outbreak of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS) occurred among L-tryptophan users [2]. A hitherto rare disorder, EMS is a debilitating disease characterized by severe muscle and joint pain, weakness, swelling of the arms and legs, fever, skin rash, and an increase of eosinophils (certain white blood cells) in the blood. Over the next year, more than 1,500 cases and twenty-eight deaths were reported to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [3]. The actual toll probably was more than 5,000 people, many of whom suffered for years and are still disabled. Some of the victims were children. When the link between EMS and L-tryptophan became apparent, the FDA quickly banned its sale

Source

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Headache, excessive sedation, and transient depression have been reported, most often with doses greater than 8 mg/day. Isolated cases of rash, a psychotic episode, gynecomastia, and autoimmune hepatitis have also been reported after melatonin use, but in none of these cases has melatonin been identified as the cause.[1- 3]

In a 1998 study published in Lancet, melatonin administration to six children with underlying seizure disorders produced a worsening of seizures in three.[15]Although this finding has not been reported in other papers, the benefit to risk ratio of melatonin in patients with seizures should be carefully weighed before initiation of therapy. Because melatonin may also play a role in immune function, it is not recommended for patients with autoimmune disorders.[2]

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cobluegirl · 02-10-2006, 11:00 PM

I agree with Kym.

cobluegirl · 02-10-2006, 11:00 PM

I agree with Kym.

allisonintx · 02-11-2006, 06:49 AM

Melatonin in inappropriate doses leads to night terrors and insomnia.
My mother used to give my brother Calcium/Magnesium before bed when he was little and it did help him have a more restful sleep, but didn't ever help him "sleep through the night"

allisonintx · 02-11-2006, 06:49 AM

Melatonin in inappropriate doses leads to night terrors and insomnia.
My mother used to give my brother Calcium/Magnesium before bed when he was little and it did help him have a more restful sleep, but didn't ever help him "sleep through the night"

02-11-2006, 08:25 AM

I will admit that I've been grateful at times when Kevin's been sick (which hasn't been very often) and the medicines hade him drowsy and able to sleep better (and consequently, we slept better).

But I wouldn't give him anything, natural or not, just to make him go to sleep...if he's not sleepy, he's not sleepy. Perhaps an earlier wake-up time in the morning or shorter or fewer naps are in order at your DD's age (Kevin started dropping naps at age 2). If there's another issue (fears or something like that), medications won't help -- parenting will.

02-11-2006, 08:25 AM

I will admit that I've been grateful at times when Kevin's been sick (which hasn't been very often) and the medicines hade him drowsy and able to sleep better (and consequently, we slept better).

But I wouldn't give him anything, natural or not, just to make him go to sleep...if he's not sleepy, he's not sleepy. Perhaps an earlier wake-up time in the morning or shorter or fewer naps are in order at your DD's age (Kevin started dropping naps at age 2). If there's another issue (fears or something like that), medications won't help -- parenting will.

MarynMunchkins · 02-11-2006, 11:02 AM

FYI...just so y'all know...there are studies that suggest melatonin is helpful for BPD.

It's usually prescribed by a pyschiatrist.

I agree that it shouldn't be used lightly.

02-10-2006, 09:45 PM	#1
hopefromgrace Climbing Rose Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,198	anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin to help sleep???????? hi, wondering if anyone knows of(or has used) tryptophan or melatonin to help their little one sleep through the night? I can't seem to get much info. on the web about it in regards to using it for a child( my dd is 2 1/2). thanks. __________________ Grace~ Married to Papa Bear, my soul mate, my love, my friend. Mama to Hope, my amazing, sweet, funny 9 y.o.! and precious baby Harmony born 9/6/10-my labor day baby! Both born at home. missing our angel babies, 9/07 and 11/08 When Mother Teresa received her nobel prize, she was asked,"What can we do to promote world peace?" She replied, "Go home and love your family."

02-10-2006, 09:45 PM	#2
hopefromgrace Climbing Rose Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,198	anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin to help sleep???????? hi, wondering if anyone knows of(or has used) tryptophan or melatonin to help their little one sleep through the night? I can't seem to get much info. on the web about it in regards to using it for a child( my dd is 2 1/2). thanks. __________________ Grace~ Married to Papa Bear, my soul mate, my love, my friend. Mama to Hope, my amazing, sweet, funny 9 y.o.! and precious baby Harmony born 9/6/10-my labor day baby! Both born at home. missing our angel babies, 9/07 and 11/08 When Mother Teresa received her nobel prize, she was asked,"What can we do to promote world peace?" She replied, "Go home and love your family."

02-10-2006, 09:49 PM	#3
MarynMunchkins Deactivated Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 38,127	Re: anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin Margaret (mwwr) has. You could PM her.

02-10-2006, 09:49 PM	#4
MarynMunchkins Deactivated Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 38,127	Re: anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin Margaret (mwwr) has. You could PM her.

02-10-2006, 10:51 PM	#5
PurpleButterfly Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 15,496	Re: anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin to help sleep???????? I wouldn't recommend giving a child any medication, hormone, or supplement to help them sleep through the night. If their bodies are designed to sleep through the night, they will, if not, that's the way God made them. I still don't sleep through the night most nights, but cuddles with people I love sure help me fall back asleep faster. __________________ Fighting for my life against Carcinoid Lung Cancer

02-10-2006, 11:00 PM	#9
cobluegirl Rose Garden never be afraid of who you were meant to be Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 43,819	Re: anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin I agree with Kym. __________________ T4/1 ISTJ Enneagram 9 Ds-T4/2 Dd1-T1/4 Dd2-T2/1 The greatest challenge for most of us is believing that we are worthy now, right this minute. Worthiness doesn't have prerequisites. ~Brene Brown "The Gifts of Imperfection"[/CENTER]

02-11-2006, 06:49 AM	#11
allisonintx Rose Garden Some Cal/Mag will probably fix that. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: catching up on the laundry Posts: 41,294	Re: anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin to help sleep???????? Melatonin in inappropriate doses leads to night terrors and insomnia. My mother used to give my brother Calcium/Magnesium before bed when he was little and it did help him have a more restful sleep, but didn't ever help him "sleep through the night" __________________ allisonintx Wife to Stephen Mother to Elizabeth 19, Andrew 17, Abigail 14 & Evelyn 12 Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take a boat in the air that you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turn of the world. Love keeps her in the air when she ought to fall down. Tells you she's hurting before she keens. Makes her a home. . . . . . . .

02-11-2006, 08:25 AM	#13
Piper2 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin to help sleep???????? I will admit that I've been grateful at times when Kevin's been sick (which hasn't been very often) and the medicines hade him drowsy and able to sleep better (and consequently, we slept better). But I wouldn't give him anything, natural or not, just to make him go to sleep...if he's not sleepy, he's not sleepy. Perhaps an earlier wake-up time in the morning or shorter or fewer naps are in order at your DD's age (Kevin started dropping naps at age 2). If there's another issue (fears or something like that), medications won't help -- parenting will.

02-11-2006, 11:02 AM	#15
MarynMunchkins Deactivated Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 38,127	Re: anyone used or know of tryptophan or melatonin FYI...just so y'all know...there are studies that suggest melatonin is helpful for BPD. It's usually prescribed by a pyschiatrist. I agree that it shouldn't be used lightly.

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