Natural support for low thyroid

[cmljll]

Originally Posted by LisaM

I just started humic and fulvic. I had never heard of them until recently. I'm so thrilled that I can get my kids to drink them, too!! Have you noticed any benefits, yet?

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I've made a lot of changes this year so it's hard to tell exactly what it's doing It did send me into a detox though! I had to back down the boys' dosage because it gave them diarrhea. I muscle tested the fulvic a few weeks ago and increased my dose. I haven't been overheating as easily and I think that's part of the reason (I know upping my iron is helping too).

[LisaM]

Originally Posted by Starfox

I test on the low side of normal, my old doc treated me with armour, but the new doc won't write the scrip because I'm "normal".

I can feel it getting worse though, hair falling out, crabby, TIRED, etc. I didn't know about the cold bottom, but mine is ALWAYS cold!!! I thought it was the fat back there or something.

That stinks. You can buy otc glandular thyroid.

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[mamacat]

Just heard of something called I-throid as well by a pharmacist who also likes Iodoral where do you get humic & fulvic? what are benefits?

[LisaM]

www.vitalearthminerals.com for humic and fulvic.

Love this quote! Applies to so many things!

To summarize, Dr. Woliner believes that there are many "ranges of lab tests" out there, and, he says, the lab will use a reference range that compares to you to 95% of the population, many of whom are fatigued, overweight, and sick enough to be treated with prescription antidepressants and cholesterol lowering meds [12]. Says Dr. Woliner:

Doctors that are still able to, and are willing "to think," realize that "common-normal" isn't the same as "optimal-normal", and will adjust ranges of the TSH, free T4, free T3, Reverse T3/Total T3 ratio, and thyroid antibodies to those that are more appropriate [13]. But "secondary hypothyroidism" and various types of "thyroid hormone resistance" are still missed by these narrowed ranges, so I emphatically feel that listening to my patients' symptoms, performing periodic physical exams, and monitoring for adverse effects to be far more effective than any one lab test in achieving "optimal treatment of hypothyroidism."

http://thyroid.about.com/od/hypothyr...-Woliner_2.htm

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[shekinah]

I'm really glad you are having success with the stuff you ordered. I have been battling for a few years now. My TSH came back as a 4.6, and I have had two doctors laugh at me saying nothing is wrong, and two naturopaths try and help me with two different approaches to treatment (bovine thyroid supplements for 6 months and then switched to the new ND who gave me herbal tinctures and homeopathy). I suspect adrenal fatigue is a huge part of it, because I am just so drained, sleep all the time when I can finally GET to sleep, quit my job, and can barely do much other than eat. All other labs come back fine, iron, vitamins, hormones, yet I can't get pregnant either. I'm just so fed up with all of this.

I'm going to try a colon enema next, because even though I have been eating healthy for a couple years which was my first attempt to help the fatigue, I also spent the majority of my life eating crap and am wondering if that's all still stored in my body and preventing me from actually healing and becoming healthy. Anyway, all this to say I am very encouraged by your post that there is relief and something helping you as opposed to more threads of despair and nothing working. It gives me hope as well!

[mamacat]

Just noticed that the humic & Fulvic has xylitol in it which gives some people the runs.........

[treehugginmama]

From what I understand your thyroid will not correct if you have AdFa. When you correct the AdFa they thyroid normally corrects itself. I do have AdFa and I'm waiting for my thyroid tests to come back. Then I'll know if my thyroid issues are their own or related to the AdFa.

[cmljll]

These are the ones I use...
http://cilihealthstore.com/site.php?...&productID=299
http://cilihealthstore.com/site.php?...&productID=298

[Atarah]

My Dr. likes to keep my TSH around 1.

It's a drag that your providers won't work with you, Missina.

[LisaM]

Originally Posted by shekinah

I'm really glad you are having success with the stuff you ordered. I have been battling for a few years now. My TSH came back as a 4.6, and I have had two doctors laugh at me saying nothing is wrong, and two naturopaths try and help me with two different approaches to treatment (bovine thyroid supplements for 6 months and then switched to the new ND who gave me herbal tinctures and homeopathy). I suspect adrenal fatigue is a huge part of it, because I am just so drained, sleep all the time when I can finally GET to sleep, quit my job, and can barely do much other than eat. All other labs come back fine, iron, vitamins, hormones, yet I can't get pregnant either. I'm just so fed up with all of this.

I'm going to try a colon enema next, because even though I have been eating healthy for a couple years which was my first attempt to help the fatigue, I also spent the majority of my life eating crap and am wondering if that's all still stored in my body and preventing me from actually healing and becoming healthy. Anyway, all this to say I am very encouraged by your post that there is relief and something helping you as opposed to more threads of despair and nothing working. It gives me hope as well!

Your TSH is 4.6???? That is HIGH.

Did they check your reverse T3? If the ratio of Free T3: Reverse T3 isn't high enough then neithernatural thyroid nor synthroid will help at all. Lots of HCPs don't know to check that ratio. Synthetic T3 only is the treatment, then.

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[LisaM]

Originally Posted by treehugginmama

From what I understand your thyroid will not correct if you have AdFa. When you correct the AdFa they thyroid normally corrects itself. I do have AdFa and I'm waiting for my thyroid tests to come back. Then I'll know if my thyroid issues are their own or related to the AdFa.

Yes, they influence one another. Being hypothyroid for a long time will result in AdFa and AdFa can cause hypothyroid, especially RT3 hypo. Healing AdFa doesn't always resolve hypothyroid, though, but it is a necessary step.

Originally Posted by mamacat

Just noticed that the humic & Fulvic has xylitol in it which gives some people the runs.........

Xylitol is not good, imo. The humic and fulvic I posted don't have xylitol.



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[ECingMama]

subbing....everyone in my family takes thyroid meds. I just came back TSH 1.91, so they did not order any other tests. Will ask if they would order others. Suspect I could have a fatigue though from having a preemie and moving around the world 120 times.

[shekinah]

Originally Posted by LisaM

Your TSH is 4.6???? That is HIGH.

Did they check your reverse T3? If the ratio of Free T3: Reverse T3 isn't high enough then neithernatural thyroid nor synthroid will help at all. Lots of HCPs don't know to check that ratio. Synthetic T3 only is the treatment, then.

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IIRC the TSH was the only thyroid test they did when I had all the labs drawn.

I went back to the doctor after taking the bovine supplement from my ND to see what my number would be, out of curiosity, if it was at least coming down, and the doctor just started yelling at me that he would write the paper for the test but made it very clear no one should ever take me seriously unless it was over a 9 and that I'm crazy to think anything is wrong. He said my 4.6 was probably just a margin error of the test. Like, how absurd is that.

I'll have to look into how I can get the reverse T3 test done. Hmm. Might have to doctor hop again.

[Lily]

Oh Shekinah!! I walked out of an endo appointment when she refused to run complete labs instead of just tsh. She also told me that there was no way I was having hypo symptoms below a 2. I asked her if she was hypo and she said of course not. Yeah, until you walk in my shoes, don't tell me what my body can and can't do.

It's so hard when someone in authority or who should know more than me tells me I'm wrong. So hard to remember I know my body.

So sorrry your ND was completely our of his mind!

[LisaM]

Originally Posted by shekinah

IIRC the TSH was the only thyroid test they did when I had all the labs drawn.

I went back to the doctor after taking the bovine supplement from my ND to see what my number would be, out of curiosity, if it was at least coming down, and the doctor just started yelling at me that he would write the paper for the test but made it very clear no one should ever take me seriously unless it was over a 9 and that I'm crazy to think anything is wrong. He said my 4.6 was probably just a margin error of the test. Like, how absurd is that.

I'll have to look into how I can get the reverse T3 test done. Hmm. Might have to doctor hop again.

Even the MAINSTREAM endocrinologists agree that the previous TSH range went too high.

The guidelines, however, recommend that the range for acceptable thyroid function, and thyroid treatment, shift to a TSH of 0.3 to 3.0, which is a far narrower range.

The American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists estimatd that the new guidelines actually double the number of people who have abnormal thyroid function.

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/testsfor...a/labs2003.htm This article has links to journal articles discussing the new ranges, in case your doctor doesn't believe you.

I really encourage you to read through this site www.stopthethyroidmadness.com There is a link to join the yahoo group. In the yahoo group, there is a file with a list of helpful doctors. Or, if you PM me where you live, I can look and see if there is one near you.

http://www.viddler.com/v/de8fb5dd Starting at 2:30, Mercola talks about lab values (the first part is good, too, listing some of the symptoms). He and other doctors think a TSH value above 1.5 could be indicative of hypothyroid.

The RT3 lab is really important, though, I never would've discovered what my thyroid issue was if I hadn't insisted on that being included in the lab order.