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Old 04-14-2020, 01:54 PM   #1
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Default Substituting whole wheat in muffins?

So I have successfully substituted whole wheat (partial) in quick breads and pancakes.

I made 2 batches of muffins today for snacks.
The recipe I like you really fill the cups and mound the top before baking so you end up with those tall muffins with a nice muffin top.
I substituted a little whole wheat in my muffin recipe and the muffin top is really flat - is the due to the whole wheat?

And if yes can I do something in the future to use both some whole wheat flour and make my muffins nice and fat and rounded rather than a flat muffin top?

The coconut chocolate ones are done and we all tried them and very pleased with the flavor - so it's really just an aesthetic thing for me.
The vanilla blueberry are cooling so hopefully those taste just as good.
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Default Re: Substituting whole wheat in muffins?

Have you done this recipe before and know that the leavening makes the full rounded tops?

Whole wheat is 'heaver' I know some all whole wheat quick breads have more baking powder ( or mix of baking powder and baking soda) to creat more lift.

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With breads you often need to add more water if you're using whole wheat (it holds on to more liquid than AP flour does). I wonder if that would make a difference for your muffins' density and rise
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Have you done this recipe before and know that the leavening makes the full rounded tops?

Whole wheat is 'heaver' I know some all whole wheat quick breads have more baking powder ( or mix of baking powder and baking soda) to creat more lift.

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Yes, it makes giant rounded professional looking muffins normally when I have made them.

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With breads you often need to add more water if you're using whole wheat (it holds on to more liquid than AP flour does). I wonder if that would make a difference for your muffins' density and rise


I could do more baking powder / soda. the recipe already calls for 4 tsp of one and 1/2 of the other for 12 muffins. Soda I think is the 4. So that may be why they are so rounded up before the whole wheat got involved.

I can also add more water if needed. they were really moist though.

Also we tried the blueberry/vanilla and there is nothing lacking in taste. I mean they taste slightly healthier but they still taste really good. But I was going more for snack than treat.

I also froze 6 of them to see if they freeze and defrost well.

eta: did I already mentioned I also reduced the sugar a little bit?
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Default Re: Substituting whole wheat in muffins?

I might try ( and this is purely off of memory I haven't baked with wheat flour in almost 8 years) adjuating the ratio of baking soda to baking powder ( and proportionally you need more powder to soda for the same amount of lift) It could be that some of the air escaped because it developed faster than the whole what flour could hydrate and have enough connectivity to hold it in. Powder will provide lift slower and a tiny bit later in the baking.

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Could you share the recipes please?
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Could you share the recipes please?
Yes, its so good. and its a base recipe that you can add different flavorings too. so I made 2 batches and just did different flavors. Im hoping they freeze well.

I put my recipe book back up but Ill get it and post when I come back.
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Default Re: Substituting whole wheat in muffins?

I know that one of my heavy recipes...blueberry...whipped the egg whites to add lift beyond the leavening. Don't think it was whole wheat, though, and it was an extra step...but it did help lift the blueberries, so might work if it feels worth the bother to you.
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I know that one of my heavy recipes...blueberry...whipped the egg whites to add lift beyond the leavening. Don't think it was whole wheat, though, and it was an extra step...but it did help lift the blueberries, so might work if it feels worth the bother to you.
The blueberries ones did seem a little flatter than the coconut/chocolate chips ones. And I did put in extra blueberries so I may have doulbe done it there.

As for the recipe . . . I tried to find it online but failed (hopefully to find the magazine) . . . but anyway, its from a magazine February/March 2006 - so before ds was even born!
I don't the name of the magazine was "cooking without recipes" or just the title of the section the muffins are in.

Anyway, Im up early and have it out so Ill type it out tomorrow am while my home is asleep.
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I would love to see a picture of your giant muffins

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Oh yes, they turned out very pretty this time.

I sent the prettiest ones to a neighbor (the mom had a stroke, the dad is still there and adult dd - but by adult I mean 18 or 19. Just graduated HS last year). But I bet I still have some good looking ones left. Tomorrow.
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Next to cans for size perspective.

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That's huge! Looks good, too.

I had a couple of thoughts about the whole wheat flour. Whole wheat takes longer to absorb moisture, so if you wanted to try increasing the percentage, you could let the batter sit for 20 minutes before portioning and baking. Add an extra tablespoon or two of milk and see if that increases the rise.
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That's huge! Looks good, too.

I had a couple of thoughts about the whole wheat flour. Whole wheat takes longer to absorb moisture, so if you wanted to try increasing the percentage, you could let the batter sit for 20 minutes before portioning and baking. Add an extra tablespoon or two of milk and see if that increases the rise.
I will try that with the next round (ds ate 2 with his berries, banana, 2 egg omelet again today) so I am sure it won't be long before we need more AND he grows another inch.

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How do you get them out oof the pan with the top intact?

If my muffins ever spill.over on to the flat of the muffin tin they are doomed to be broken and misshapen because I can't get them out.

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