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08-23-2022, 06:50 AM | #1 |
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Parenting gently as Christians
This is the main purpose of our community, so the topic is nothing new! But recently I've been seeing young Christian parents (on instagram) call Gentle Parenting ungodly. At first I was taken aback, but then I remembered it's why GCM is here. We can and do parent without spanking and punishment in a way that honors the Lord.
There are lots of old threads stickied in this public forum, but I'd like to discuss with you ladies. Two things come to mind. The first is GRACE. Yes, from the beginning in the Garden of Eden, we see God punish for sin throughout the Old Testament. But then Jesus comes and takes our punishment on the cross. Where we deserve judgment, we find MERCY. Natural consequences to sin abound, but he doesn't strike us, thanks be to God. He has compassion on us. He knows that we are dust. He teaches us kindly and patiently. I am so humbled by his patience with me. The other thing on my mind is that I used to think that with the right kind of parenting, I could control the outcome, I could produce young adults walking with the Lord and filled with fruit of the Spirit. But the truth is that no parenting style or method has the power to affect change in our children's hearts. Only the Holy Spirit can do that. Gentle parenting does not a guarantee an outcome, and neither does consistent spanking and punishment. So what do we gain by parenting gently? Well, as a mom with grown kids one thing I gained is a strong and sweet relationship with each of them, even through some very hard times which are not over yet. By God's grace I laid a foundation that is serving me well in that way and I am grateful. I do have regrets, but NOT about not punishing them. Please share your thoughts and beliefs and questions.
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08-23-2022, 12:56 PM | #2 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
I tell people that part of practicing discipline is discipling. And we choose to focus on doing that with our children. We come alongside them and teach them and coach them and encourage them to build on their foundations.
We don't expect that they will become Christians, but we expect that we as parents will love Christ and that will be so attractive to our children, that they will want that relationship with Him too. We have rules (no gum until you're five) and teach them principles (we keep things clean so that bugs don't come to live in our house and so things don't break), but we don't have formulas.
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08-23-2022, 01:20 PM | #3 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
I think of gentle parenting as modeling what a real life looks life: grace, mercy, natural consequences, love, disappointment, handling that disappointment with kindness, etc.
I'm so thankful I have a five year old because I get to do it again with her. Gentle parenting means acknowleding that parenting each child is different. What works for the heart of one may not work for the heart of the others. And sleep. Honoring needs. In my first round, I underestimated how important it is to pay attention to the child's needs for sleep and downtown and home time *and* nursing and eating. Gentle parenting means knowing each season is just that: a season. Pruning is an important part of parenting. Gentle parenting extends to friends. It means not engaging my IRL friends with their choices unless they ask or the opportunity arises in natural conversation.
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08-23-2022, 01:32 PM | #4 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
I think so much of gentle parenting is teaching. I'm not expecting them to respond appropriately when young, but I'm teaching them my expectations. I want their inner voice to be kind while also revealing truths about how to behave/interact with others. There are so many things that I've learned here at GCM, but one of the most important for me personally was to assign positive intent. It helps with parenting and all other aspects of life.
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08-23-2022, 02:30 PM | #5 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
Does Gentle Parenting on social media today mean the same thing as it has meant on this board?
I don’t hang out with many parents of babies and little ones these days, but my first thought is to make sure they mean the same thing that you do. I know there were a few really questionable or harmful things going around years ago that had nice sounding names, but that when I understood what they were I did not agree with them. |
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08-23-2022, 07:27 PM | #6 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
Good question, teamommy! I just assumed so. I remember that when Jeri started GCM, it was rare to find gentle parenting mingled with Christianity.
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08-28-2022, 10:25 PM | #7 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
It's a good question, what do people mean when they call Gentle Parenting ungodly. I will say there is a resurgence of neo-Calvinism (which is different in many ways from traditional Calvinism) and it's very strict and legalistic. Strict gender essentialism, strict parenting, strict views on many things. Matt Chander joked that when his kids were little family devotions often included the kids getting a beating (and his interviewer laughed).
I think the general public is moving away from hitting and emotionally hurting children but a segment (not sure how big) of American Christianity is digging in, hard. |
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08-29-2022, 05:33 AM | #8 | |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
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08-31-2022, 07:48 AM | #9 | |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
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08-31-2022, 01:42 PM | #10 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
People I know who are against gentle parenting have a very limited view of what it is and don't really understand the philosophy. They also tend to be people who believe 'the culture' (American culture, presumably) is going downhill and becoming ungodly, and this fits their preconceptions. They latch on to half an idea that sounds crazy to them and use it as a rhetorical device. For example, they will listen to a parenting expert trying to say that we should use positive instructions instead of negative (gentle hands rather than don't hit) because little children's brains can't process negatives as easily. Rather than being able or willing to try to comprehend, they'll rant about how crazy it is that now we are supposed to be positive all the time and never tell our kids no, and how it's a sign of the crazy, woke, ungodly times we're living in. I haven't found there's much point in trying to help them understand gentle parenting, since it's not really about parenting at all.
However, I have had some influence with some younger parents by encouraging them. I try to help them trust God more and be less anxious, angry, and reactive through gentle, loving, commiserative words of encouragement. They are mostly not ready to fully embrace gentle parenting, but they become more open to hearing about things like age-appropriate expectations.
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09-06-2022, 11:20 AM | #11 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
This is an interesting thread!
What does it mean exactly when someone is "winging it"? It must be an idiom of some kind but I have not heard it before. |
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08-24-2022, 07:34 AM | #12 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
My daughter just had a baby and says she is having trouble finding gentle Christian parenting resources. Luckily she has me.
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08-24-2022, 07:47 AM | #13 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
A lot of some of the current 'gentle parenting' is much more online to the 'taking children seriously ' if that is what people are seeing I can understand how they don't think it is right.
The young parents that I currently know take pride in not reading any parenting books ( now nor in the past nor any plan in the future) and just winging it. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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08-28-2022, 06:44 AM | #14 | |
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I don't know how to offer support in a way that doesn't present myself as an expert, because I'm not that either. I had to re-parent myself before I could fully understand how to show my children grace. That was probably the biggest work that needed to be done before any of the tools made sense. I had to heal in the hopes I wouldn't hold my children back too much. |
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08-28-2022, 07:51 AM | #15 |
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Re: Parenting gently as Christians
Taking pride in "winging it" is so utterly foreign to me that I cannot even begin to wrap my head around it.
I guess from my perspective taking pride in being educated (however one sees fit in doing so) seems so much more "prideful" although being prideful is not going to end well I suspect. |
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