A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 - Page 4

Allison · 09-22-2008, 03:18 AM

I totally agree, Heather. I know I've made some mamas mad by telling them that their two year old was still a baby and not to expect so much. I try not to do that but sometimes we don't realize that "big kid" takes a long time to accomplish.

I am amazed at my newly seven year old because his behaviour is often more grown up than I would expect from a seven year old. Another mom told me that I was going to adore eight. lol

Oliveshoots · 09-22-2008, 06:47 AM

I love this thread and I need several of you to just hang out with me and the kids all day long to REMIND me of this continually!!!

Where exactly is that scripture passage? I had found it once before but never can remember. IIRC it is either in Lev., Deut., one of the Kings or one of the Chrons (that really narrows it down, huh?) Okay, so I KNOW it's in the OT!!!

Dana, I love that info the teacher shared.

20/20 did a thing a few years ago on the development of the frontal lobe (impulse, judgement) and talked about how that might be why teens/early 20somethings may be more likely to do risky and life-threatening behavior, and may contribute to the whole "invincible" mind-set. Fasinating!!!!

09-23-2008, 04:24 AM

I think people did understand this until the last century or two. I remember reading a book about Abraham Lincoln several years ago, and it talked about the clothes he wore (which were baby clothes) until the age of 5 because 0-5yos were considered babies still. And think about how in the "old days" children didn't go to school until age 8 or so....like in the Little House on the Prairie books. As with most of the old wisdom, it has been forgotten in our modern age of "enlightment".

I had a PM conversation with Crystal a few years ago about the Age of Accountability being 21 and it was totally eye-opening to me, and made so much sense. And child development evidence does back this up. Why are we (our society) always in such a rush for these little children to grow up? It makes me feel more valuable and necessary as a mom to remember how much they need patience and understanding and my guidance for YEARS.

Thanks, Heather, for posting this. It is a great reminder!

Heather Micaela · 09-23-2008, 04:28 AM

I am so glad this is blessing people.

Is this worth stickying? (I feel weird asking that about my own thread

)

La Loba · 09-23-2008, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heather Micaela

I am so glad this is blessing people.

Is this worth stickying? (I feel weird asking that about my own thread

)

I say yes, yes, YES!!!

Thank you so much for posting this-- I needed to read this today. It has been a tremendous blessing

I will come back to it often..

liamum · 09-23-2008, 04:36 AM

Thanks, Heather- this is so true! Great insights.

Oliveshoots · 09-23-2008, 07:28 AM

I vote YES to making this a sticky

IslandHome · 09-23-2008, 05:03 PM

Thanks so much for this thread. It was just what I needed reading today after a night of DS needing me to hold his hand all night

GlacierLily · 09-24-2008, 02:31 PM

sorry to repeat but can someone tell me where the info came from? i want to share with dh.

ArmsOfLove · 09-24-2008, 02:57 PM

It's not really from one resource but from a compilation of research. This is a lot of what I've been studying for years. If you read my book Grace-Based Living I go into this. Samuel Martin talks about this in his book (I think you can download it) "Spare the Rod". You can do research on Jewish view of children and Classical theory of education

GlacierLily · 09-24-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmsOfLove

It's not really from one resource but from a compilation of research. This is a lot of what I've been studying for years. If you read my book Grace-Based Living I go into this. Samuel Martin talks about this in his book (I think you can download it) "Spare the Rod". You can do research on Jewish view of children and Classical theory of education

thank you!

09-24-2008, 10:01 PM

This thread has given me peace to go to sleep tonight with much less frustration than I felt when I logged on to GCM!

How insightful! Thanks for sharing!

Now I have more motivation to finish reading Crystal's books and stop letting things distract me.

Mary

09-25-2008, 04:53 AM

I wish I had understood this when Taryn was little.

With Landon it has been something I've naturally gravitated toward because he is my last "baby" and he is still nursing. I've found it is easier to keep in that "he is still a baby" mindset because of EN. It has kept us more cloesly bonded than I was with my other two at this age. Taryn only bf for a week and Nicholas self-weaned at 25 1/2 months. I've never had a nursling this old (4 in December). I do have to have DH read this. He tends to think children are just little adults and gets frustrated so easily with them.

I'll be referring to this post often for the excellent reminders!

09-25-2008, 04:59 AM

Thank you for posting

ValiantJoy07 · 09-26-2008, 05:18 AM

You put that so well! Thank you for sharing that.

09-22-2008, 03:18 AM	#46
Allison Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: just exactly where I should be Posts: 6,743	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 I totally agree, Heather. I know I've made some mamas mad by telling them that their two year old was still a baby and not to expect so much. I try not to do that but sometimes we don't realize that "big kid" takes a long time to accomplish. I am amazed at my newly seven year old because his behaviour is often more grown up than I would expect from a seven year old. Another mom told me that I was going to adore eight. lol __________________ Allison Blessed mother of my three sons: 23, 21, 18 Grateful for GCM since 2004

09-22-2008, 06:47 AM	#47
Oliveshoots Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,941	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 I love this thread and I need several of you to just hang out with me and the kids all day long to REMIND me of this continually!!! Where exactly is that scripture passage? I had found it once before but never can remember. IIRC it is either in Lev., Deut., one of the Kings or one of the Chrons (that really narrows it down, huh?) Okay, so I KNOW it's in the OT!!! Dana, I love that info the teacher shared. 20/20 did a thing a few years ago on the development of the frontal lobe (impulse, judgement) and talked about how that might be why teens/early 20somethings may be more likely to do risky and life-threatening behavior, and may contribute to the whole "invincible" mind-set. Fasinating!!!! __________________ Kristen<br />Wife to David<br />Mom to ds (8-17-03) and dd (12-21-04)<br />Jesus is my bail-out. The Holy Spirit is my stimulus package. His blessings of family and friends are my recovery acts. "Those who have been required to memorize the world as it is will never create the world as it might be." ~Judith Groch

09-23-2008, 04:24 AM	#48
Carrie in PA Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 I think people did understand this until the last century or two. I remember reading a book about Abraham Lincoln several years ago, and it talked about the clothes he wore (which were baby clothes) until the age of 5 because 0-5yos were considered babies still. And think about how in the "old days" children didn't go to school until age 8 or so....like in the Little House on the Prairie books. As with most of the old wisdom, it has been forgotten in our modern age of "enlightment". I had a PM conversation with Crystal a few years ago about the Age of Accountability being 21 and it was totally eye-opening to me, and made so much sense. And child development evidence does back this up. Why are we (our society) always in such a rush for these little children to grow up? It makes me feel more valuable and necessary as a mom to remember how much they need patience and understanding and my guidance for YEARS. Thanks, Heather, for posting this. It is a great reminder!

09-23-2008, 04:28 AM	#49
Heather Micaela Rose Garden Bar/Bat Mitzvah picture with husband Michael. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Within sight and earshot of the Disneyland fireworks Posts: 39,893	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 I am so glad this is blessing people. Is this worth stickying? (I feel weird asking that about my own thread ) __________________ Heather ESFJ T4 Messianic Joshua-13 Christina- 11 Amalia Linda-8.5 Trinity-7 Gabriel-5 w/ADHD, ASD & Dyslexia Taylor Jordan11/15/04 SkyeDakota10/12/05 Life is a pile of good things & bad things The good things don't always soften the bad things but the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things

09-23-2008, 04:36 AM	#51
liamum Rose Garden Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,553	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Thanks, Heather- this is so true! Great insights. __________________ Leigh Wife to K (5/02) Mother to Liam (10/03) Mother to Ardan, Now Held By God Graceful Leigh Jewelry on Etsy Faithfully Handmade Jewelry My art blog INFJ and also type 3 ". . . we only feel the weight of the cross when we try to get out from under it. If we bear it gratefully, we find that it carries us." - Mark Salzman.

09-23-2008, 07:28 AM	#52
Oliveshoots Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,941	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 I vote YES to making this a sticky __________________ Kristen<br />Wife to David<br />Mom to ds (8-17-03) and dd (12-21-04)<br />Jesus is my bail-out. The Holy Spirit is my stimulus package. His blessings of family and friends are my recovery acts. "Those who have been required to memorize the world as it is will never create the world as it might be." ~Judith Groch

09-23-2008, 05:03 PM	#53
IslandHome Rose Trellis Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,829	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Thanks so much for this thread. It was just what I needed reading today after a night of DS needing me to hold his hand all night __________________ ~Eva~ INFP

09-24-2008, 02:31 PM	#54
GlacierLily Rose Garden “Overcoming what frightens you the most strengthens you the most.” ― Matshona Dhliwayo Join Date: May 2005 Location: Where the glacier lillies grow ;) Posts: 3,939	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 sorry to repeat but can someone tell me where the info came from? i want to share with dh. __________________ <--- I just like that ice cream icon. It makes me happy Mama to our medical munchkin -3 (ASD,CHD, GDD medically complex & cognitively age 1 ) and super siblings !

09-24-2008, 02:57 PM	#55
ArmsOfLove Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 79,607	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 It's not really from one resource but from a compilation of research. This is a lot of what I've been studying for years. If you read my book Grace-Based Living I go into this. Samuel Martin talks about this in his book (I think you can download it) "Spare the Rod". You can do research on Jewish view of children and Classical theory of education __________________ Crystal "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Maya Angelou

09-24-2008, 10:01 PM	#57
fourbygrace Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 This thread has given me peace to go to sleep tonight with much less frustration than I felt when I logged on to GCM! How insightful! Thanks for sharing! Now I have more motivation to finish reading Crystal's books and stop letting things distract me. Mary

09-25-2008, 04:53 AM	#58
KnittingHappy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 I wish I had understood this when Taryn was little. With Landon it has been something I've naturally gravitated toward because he is my last "baby" and he is still nursing. I've found it is easier to keep in that "he is still a baby" mindset because of EN. It has kept us more cloesly bonded than I was with my other two at this age. Taryn only bf for a week and Nicholas self-weaned at 25 1/2 months. I've never had a nursling this old (4 in December). I do have to have DH read this. He tends to think children are just little adults and gets frustrated so easily with them. I'll be referring to this post often for the excellent reminders!

09-25-2008, 04:59 AM	#59
FaithfilledGranolaChick Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Thank you for posting

09-26-2008, 05:18 AM	#60
ValiantJoy07 Rose Garden "Take Joy Home, And make a place in thy great heart for her...Joy is the grace we say to God." ~Jean Ingelow~ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Forest Posts: 16,337	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 You put that so well! Thank you for sharing that. __________________ Hannah Joy Intuitive People Loving Introvert Married since '05 to Ryan software and web applications developer. Homeschooling Mama to my 5 Joys... dd1 RJ (12/07), dd2 AJ (08/09), dd3 PJ (01/12), ds1 Ziggy (09/15), ds2 Sunny (05/18) Enjoying a Healing Diet to manage SPD and other health challenges. Sorry for the typos and sloppy grammar I don't have a good excuse anymore.

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