A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 - Page 7

Heather Micaela · 03-05-2009, 06:30 PM

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"this is a human being who was just BORN 18months ago, has only the barest basic language, motor and mobility skills, and you are expecting him/her to have a fully formed sense of right and wrong??"

I love that quote.

Me, too!

Mind if I borrow it sometime?

Please do! You guys don't know how rad it makes me feel when people like what I say ... can you say "not validated as a child"?

more validation coming your way!!!

validation from this direction, too. I'm going to use that.

03-10-2009, 01:41 PM

I had never heard that Hebrews considered children to be babies until age 5, but that is really a mind-blowing thought for me. What a great perspective. Does anyone know if that corresponded with an age of weaning? I always wondered how old Samuel would have been when he went to the Synagogue with Eli. I can't imagine sending my little guy off at the age of not quite 3 (he just weaned due to my pregnancy), but I think the OT says that Hannah gave him over to God's service after he was weaned.

SamRose · 03-10-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GraffyWifey

I had never heard that Hebrews considered children to be babies until age 5, but that is really a mind-blowing thought for me. What a great perspective. Does anyone know if that corresponded with an age of weaning? I always wondered how old Samuel would have been when he went to the Synagogue with Eli. I can't imagine sending my little guy off at the age of not quite 3 (he just weaned due to my pregnancy), but I think the OT says that Hannah gave him over to God's service after he was weaned.

Id like to know if anybody knows his age for sure. I know that Ive read commentary on scripture passages where they've guessed children's ages to be around 4 yrs old when they reference the child being weaned, so that was always my thinking for Samuel as well.

bananacake · 03-10-2009, 01:50 PM

Need to come back to this later when I really do have a

03-16-2009, 04:55 AM

Hmm true, thats really cool. And its interesting that 13 years olds were ready for marriage in hebrew society. I think part of the reason for societies disfunction is illegal marriage until 18. We need to equip kids to be ready for greater freedom and responsibility by then. Interesting how teens 'rebel'. Perhaps this is the way they/we were designed so that "The husband will leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife"...We expect young kids to grow up too fast and young adults to remain our kids.

ArmsOfLove · 03-17-2009, 12:42 AM

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Does anyone know if that corresponded with an age of weaning?

Actually the word for children before age 5 is "nursling" so yes

Anyway, 5 was when they were weaned and wore clothes and started Hebrew studies and, as boys, got one foot into the men's camp

Samuel would probably have been 5 when he was taken to the Temple to do his studies and service. Instead of one foot in the men's camp he went straight to the Temple

03-17-2009, 03:04 AM

Arms of Love, I love your info! I wish I had the confidence to nurse that long. In our society that is just outright weird... and I think Im too much of a man pleaser to quite jump that far over the hurdle

03-17-2009, 07:31 PM

Thanks for that information Arms of Love! It's so fabulous how much more we can glean from the scriptures when we understand the original language.

mamatorubyandbump · 04-09-2009, 08:53 AM

This is such a helpful thread. Thank you so much!
I think I definitely expect too much of my dd, she is only 2, but she is very articulate and bright and can express herself really well.
It's easy to forget that she is just a baby.
This is just what I have needed as a reminder at the moment, I need to lower my expectations and baby her a little bit more, even though she refuses to be called a baby and insists she is a "big girl"

Thanks again.

04-25-2009, 11:51 AM

What a great post! Thank you

05-12-2009, 12:04 PM

This is fantastic. I'm learning so much from this website. Thank you.

Rose5000 · 05-12-2009, 06:17 PM

these are the ones I really need to work on.

allow them to be clingy when they need to be
* I remember that they cannot do a lot of things and I cant get frustrated for them needing assistance
* I don't criticise them for being selfish - they will grow out of it
* I don't worry about their lack of independence
* I don't care if they don't want to engage in activities without a parent there

this thread was just what I needed to hear when I came here to day! thank you!

simplegirl · 05-12-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose5000

these are the ones I really need to work on.

allow them to be clingy when they need to be
* I remember that they cannot do a lot of things and I cant get frustrated for them needing assistance
* I don't criticise them for being selfish - they will grow out of it
* I don't worry about their lack of independence
* I don't care if they don't want to engage in activities without a parent there

this thread was just what I needed to hear when I came here to day! thank you!

Wow, I could cry reading that. I've had one of those days where I.just.want.them.off.of.me. I've read this thread a long time ago, but I REALLY needed to read that tonight. Thanks.

richesabove · 05-12-2009, 06:28 PM

Honestly, my just turned six year old son is still so needy and developmentally immature. plus he frustrates easily and just gets so panicked about things. I think I should still consider him a baby

do you??? I think I need validation too

AngelaVA · 05-12-2009, 06:35 PM

Love this thread! Makes me feel like I am doing okay and not failing as a parent when my DD is doing all the things Heather described on a regular basis.

03-10-2009, 01:41 PM	#92
GraffyWifey Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 I had never heard that Hebrews considered children to be babies until age 5, but that is really a mind-blowing thought for me. What a great perspective. Does anyone know if that corresponded with an age of weaning? I always wondered how old Samuel would have been when he went to the Synagogue with Eli. I can't imagine sending my little guy off at the age of not quite 3 (he just weaned due to my pregnancy), but I think the OT says that Hannah gave him over to God's service after he was weaned.

03-10-2009, 01:50 PM	#94
bananacake Rose Garden I Am A BananaCake Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northeast US Posts: 25,158	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Need to come back to this later when I really do have a __________________ Brenna 3 kiddos (17, 14 1/2 & 9 1/2) Praying for semi-son, age 36 I live by the motto: seek first to understand. "Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions." Proverbs 18:2

03-16-2009, 04:55 AM	#95
boobymummy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Hmm true, thats really cool. And its interesting that 13 years olds were ready for marriage in hebrew society. I think part of the reason for societies disfunction is illegal marriage until 18. We need to equip kids to be ready for greater freedom and responsibility by then. Interesting how teens 'rebel'. Perhaps this is the way they/we were designed so that "The husband will leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife"...We expect young kids to grow up too fast and young adults to remain our kids.

03-17-2009, 03:04 AM	#97
boobymummy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Arms of Love, I love your info! I wish I had the confidence to nurse that long. In our society that is just outright weird... and I think Im too much of a man pleaser to quite jump that far over the hurdle

03-17-2009, 07:31 PM	#98
GraffyWifey Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Thanks for that information Arms of Love! It's so fabulous how much more we can glean from the scriptures when we understand the original language.

04-09-2009, 08:53 AM	#99
mamatorubyandbump Seedling Rose Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 29	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 This is such a helpful thread. Thank you so much! I think I definitely expect too much of my dd, she is only 2, but she is very articulate and bright and can express herself really well. It's easy to forget that she is just a baby. This is just what I have needed as a reminder at the moment, I need to lower my expectations and baby her a little bit more, even though she refuses to be called a baby and insists she is a "big girl" Thanks again. __________________ Rachael, saved by Grace, wife, mama to Ruby (induction & forceps) 12/2006, Thomas (SVD) 08/2009, and James (SVD water birth) 02/2013. Breast feeder, baby wearer, cloth bummer.

04-25-2009, 11:51 AM	#100
DzinerMommy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 What a great post! Thank you

05-12-2009, 12:04 PM	#101
WEN123 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 This is fantastic. I'm learning so much from this website. Thank you.

05-12-2009, 06:17 PM	#102
Rose5000 Climbing Rose Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,489	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 these are the ones I really need to work on. allow them to be clingy when they need to be * I remember that they cannot do a lot of things and I cant get frustrated for them needing assistance * I don't criticise them for being selfish - they will grow out of it * I don't worry about their lack of independence * I don't care if they don't want to engage in activities without a parent there this thread was just what I needed to hear when I came here to day! thank you! __________________ trad cath

05-12-2009, 06:28 PM	#104
richesabove Climbing Rose Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,440	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Honestly, my just turned six year old son is still so needy and developmentally immature. plus he frustrates easily and just gets so panicked about things. I think I should still consider him a baby do you??? I think I need validation too

05-12-2009, 06:35 PM	#105
AngelaVA Rose Garden Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 11,512	Re: A radical idea - viewing kids as babies till 5 Love this thread! Makes me feel like I am doing okay and not failing as a parent when my DD is doing all the things Heather described on a regular basis. __________________ Wife to David since July 2005, Mama to Genevieve born June 2006 and to Gabrielle born February 2009

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